Is over population a real problem?

[FoxDemonSoavi]

Just your thoughts on the subject. Do you think it is a problem? IF so how do we address it? fF you think it is not a problem, why not? If you think that its a lie, how so?

Personaly I think over Population ia major crisis we have facing us today. Our eco system can not support us much longer.

 

[ryanwh]

Its not a problem at all in the US. There are plenty of jobs, and there's plenty of unused land. We could sustain probably quadrupal our current population before it became a major concern. Its a problem in India and China, though. With the pope finally abolishing the rediculous condemnation on condoms, it will become less of a problem in Africa along with disease. Not a major problem where I am, India's probably going to have some major problems down the line and I dont see a quick solution to it.

 

[Wings]

Just your thoughts on the subject. Do you think it is a problem? IF so how do we address it? fF you think it is not a problem, why not? If you think that its a lie, how so?

Personaly I think over Population ia major crisis we have facing us today. Our eco system can not support us much longer.

Yes I believe overpopulation to be a very big issue. But how can one go about resolving it? It's not like we can just say..."stop having sex", or "let's get a group of people together and kill them for the purpose of population control".

Amongst other things, there is that cloning issue which would result in even more people. Certain places are becoming overcrowded and vital resources continue to be consumed in massive amounts. As you said soavi, the ecosystem is deteriorating because of human actions.

I have always looked on humans in general like parasites. We inhabit, grow and consume an area until it becomes barren. Then after we can no longer support ourselves in that area, we move onto another place and repeat the process.

 

[DESIRE]

Yes I believe overpopulation to be a very big issue. But how can one go about resolving it? It's not like we can just say..."stop having sex", or "let's get a group of people together and kill them for the purpose of population control".

Amongst other things, there is that cloning issue which would result in even more people. Certain places are becoming overcrowded and vital resources continue to be consumed in massive amounts. As you said soavi, the ecosystem is deteriorating because of human actions.

I have always looked on humans in general like parasites. We inhabit, grow and consume an area until it becomes barren. Then after we can no longer support ourselves in that area, we move onto another place and repeat the process.

Not much more to add than that.

 

[Nix]

Two words: Soylent Green.

But seriously, though, I agree with Wings: people are somewhat parasitic in the way that they live. But, as he said, there's very little one can do to stop overpopulation.

Some ideas could be continuing to educate people about contraception or instituting a rule similar to China's "one child" policy, both of which have met with some success in the past.

 

[rexxzecutioner]

Two words: Soylent Green.

"Soylent Green.... is PEOPLE!"

*is dragged away*

har har!

anyways, to answer the question in the most blunt way possible. Yes it's a major issue.

 

[Drake Miriel]

As people have already said, there's China, where each family is limited to one child, and everyone wants a boy, so the way I see it, within the next, say, hundred years, due to people who will abort girls in China to get a boy (and there will be), I see China's population decreasing.
As for the western world, the birth rate is declining. It's increasingly expensive now to raise children, and even in large cities like Montreal (where i live) they're starting to take the grade school kids and put them into the lesser-populated high schools.
But overall, I think the population can't stay this high forever.

 

[cos]

Two words:Demographic transition.

When the demographic transition does end,the population of the ountry cease to grow or grow very slowly it's the case of all the north countries,south america,black gold countries,and east asia(yes even China).
The overgrowth problem happens only in countries who are in the middle of demographic transition and generaly aren't rich enought to get past this phase (these countries population don't have any type of social protection so they make children that would assist them when they'll be older).

As for overpopulation itself it isn't technically a problem since earth has enought ressource for far more people,in fact the actual food production could stop all the nutrition problems in the world and even be enought for more people.It's just that food is a thing that sells,so country who can't afford it won't have it.

 

[Hisuwashi]

Overpopulation in China is a major factor in the country's strength, but there are many disadvantages (stated by Wings) - and another problem would be the increased contribution to global warming (am I the only one worried about that?...) and thus the way I see it is that nature finds a way to deal with overpopulation which is why the Asian Tsunami happened and things like that.
So global warming would lead to flooding which would be nature's way of controlling the population problem.

 

[ryanwh]

I have always looked on humans in general like parasites. We inhabit, grow and consume an area until it becomes barren. Then after we can no longer support ourselves in that area, we move onto another place and repeat the process.

What a bad analogy. How is that true at all for anyone other than cow herders? Name one area on earth that used to be completely fruitfull, but then we used all the resources and now its abandoned. You cant, unless you count the gold rush over 150 years ago or something rediculously irrelevent to modern times. Furthermore, EVERY NOMADIC ANIMAL ON EARTH does this, parasites dont migrate, they die with the host. Where nomadic Native Americans parasites? Then I gues you're glad we took care of that. Its just a generally badly thought out analogy.

 

[Wings]

What a bad analogy. How is that true at all for anyone other than cow herders? Name one area on earth that used to be completely fruitfull, but then we used all the resources and now its abandoned. You cant, unless you count the gold rush over 150 years ago or something rediculously irrelevent to modern times. Furthermore, EVERY NOMADIC ANIMAL ON EARTH does this, parasites dont migrate, they die with the host. Where nomadic Native Americans parasites? Then I gues you're glad we took care of that. Its just a generally badly thought out analogy.

What a bad assumption on the analogy I provided ryanwh. Think about it. This parasitic presence is everywhere, especially in cities. Show me natural resources provided within cities or mass human growth populations that has not been funneled in from elsewhere.

You cannot define human actions completely to a known definition of parasites, that is just foolhardy. Many other people (outside of this forum), share the same views on this matter as I do along with some of my old college professors. So there must be a few things you are yet to understand or consider before you can comment on the obvious.

EDIT: Besides, there is a deeper meaning to the word parasite. Not everything is so direct as you have made it seem.

 

[DESIRE]

What a bad analogy. How is that true at all for anyone other than cow herders? Name one area on earth that used to be completely fruitfull, but then we used all the resources and now its abandoned. You cant, unless you count the gold rush over 150 years ago or something rediculously irrelevent to modern times. Furthermore, EVERY NOMADIC ANIMAL ON EARTH does this, parasites dont migrate, they die with the host. Where nomadic Native Americans parasites? Then I gues you're glad we took care of that. Its just a generally badly thought out analogy.

I'd like to note that cows don't leave places barren. They go into the pasture, they eat, they poop, it recycles. They just have to move into small circles so it can replenish itself, which doesn't take long at all. Also, more often than not, they won't even take everything from an area before they move to a new one temporarily so nothing is ever truly destroyed.

 

[ryanwh]

Its a little more complicated then that.
"so nothing is ever truly destroyed."
Same for humans. Same for locusts, even, in a broader vaguer sense. Same for everything in the long run. That doesnt save the bad comparison, comparing humans to some kind of devouring pestilence, its just incredibly nihilistic and ignorant.

 

[BlackStaticWolf]

As is, Earth is drastically overpopulated. Over 6 billion humans, consuming renewable resources faster than they can be renewed and depleting the non-renewable resources at an alarming rate.

It's a simple fact, this planet cannot support our current population or resource expenditure forever (or even for much longer in the grand scheme of things).

Solutions...

Forced sterilization.
Colonization of other planets.
A modest proposal, aka soylent green. (curbs the population AND fights starvation... what could be better?)

 

[Wings]

Its a little more complicated then that.
"so nothing is ever truly destroyed."
Same for humans. Same for locusts, even, in a broader vaguer sense. Same for everything in the long run. That doesnt save the bad comparison, comparing humans to some kind of devouring pestilence, its just incredibly nihilistic and ignorant.

It's amazing how you continue to insult people just because they don't share your same point of view. Before calling someone ignorant, maybe you should really attempt to provide sufficient evidence to back your claims that humans do not devour everything.

Humans are the most destructive race on the earth. There is no other worldly existence that provides so much death and destruction as humans. Once you can disprove my statement, your opinion on this matter holds no ground.