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I live in Kyoto. What do you want to know?

Tindy

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So, as I'm sure most of you know, I currently live in Kyoto and have been for the last three months (and will be for the next eight...) I know that a good chunk of you have some interest in Japan/Japanese language/culture/etc, and the rest of you either don't or just don't know anything about it. So...

I'm opening this up to questions and answers and other discussion and stuff. What do you want to know about Japan/Kyoto? What do you want to know about culture and language and all that weird crazy stuff? What's it like being a foreigner in Japan? Why does one word in Japanese mean 80 different things? What does sea urchin taste like? All your burning questions answered! (or at least most. I mean I'll be honest here, I don't know *everything* about Japan. But I can find out. ;D)

Note: I debated long and hard (at least 30 seconds) on where to actually post this. I decided here would be best to actually bring out half-decent questions.
 
Is it true you can buy used women's panties in vending machines in the men's bathrooms? If so, my address will follow in a PM.
 

mawk

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yeah, I've often been a little weirded out by that particular aspect of Japanese consumer culture. is it really all that prevalent, though? given the country's strict indecency laws, I'd think you'd have to really go out of your way.

although, given the sometimes hilariously cynical ways that "indecent" businesses circumvent those laws, I dunno what to think, exactly.
 
I went to Kyoto a few summers ago. I was impressed with the graciousness and cleanliness of the city. Many of the temples and gardens were stunning as well.
You are rather lucky to live there.
 
as an obviously caucasian woman, do jap's come up to you randomly and try out their english for you? they always did that to my dad when he was over there but of course that was in the 80's so maybe things've changed.
 
Wow! Neat. Kyoto................envious.

Hmmmmm. How do the everyday social "norms" compare to where you are native to? Have you suffered any culture shock?
 

Tindy

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psiclone: Well... let me put it this way: There's aren't any, that I know of, in Kyoto. Maybe in Tokyo - but the thing of it is, in 1993 a law was actually passed that made it illegal to have the machines. So...take that as you will.

On a related but slightly more interesting note, it *is* true that you can find almost anything in vending machines here. Except snacks. O_o (I'm sure they exist *somewhere.* I just haven't found one yet.) In my immediate vicinity, you'll find alcohol vending machines, smokes, and (of course!) soft drinks. The cool thing about the drink machines is that you can get cold drinks, of course, but you can also get HOT drinks. In the school cafeteria there's also a cup noodle machine, and an ice cream machine. Supposedly there's even ones with live lobsters!

Vennie: Ahahaha. But of course! The Japanese these days though seem to be evenly split: They'll either ignore you (and assume that you can't speak Japanese), or they'll try out the latest English phrase they learned. I was walking through a shopping district one day and a four-foot granny strode up to me and said, "How are you enjoying Japan? Good? Have a nice day!" I was a bit surprised, to say the least. Japanese kids though are split in completely different ways. Sure, they might try out their English - they ARE learning it in school, after all - but more often then not they'll either talk about you with their friends in Japanese, or (in the smaller cities) they might even just stare at you with HUGE, saucer-eyes. I actually met a little girl on Saturday who was actually shaking behind her mom at my presence (she later got over it.)

I was very pleasantly surprised, though, by a fellow college student I met at a bus stop. I commented on how the bus was always late and we struck up conversation. The fact that I was foreign didn't come up at all - and on the bus, she asked if my house was nearby! (The way that she asked it suggested to me that she thought I quite possibly could have been a Japanese citizen of mixed/foreign heritage. Quite pleased. :D)

Sojournen: Well, there are differences, and then there are similarities. The biggest difference I've noticed is what people seem to think regarding transportation. In America, we think it's so horrible if you have to walk or bike anywhere. And what a pain it is to go to the grocery store more than once a week! But here, there's literally no space for everyone to drive everywhere. There just isn't - it's not even a matter of better putting space to use or anything. Biking and walking is normal, and that's it. So while there are school busses available for elementary schoolers, most will walk to school. Middle schoolers and upwards will bike. College students and workers alike will also bike to school. If they really live too far to bike or walk, most will ride a scooter (like a Vespa). And everything done is done with that in mind - you go shopping a few times a week, you're forced to consider what times trains and busses stop running, etc etc. I have a feeling that most Americans would revolt at the thought of having to actually keep track of bus schedules.

A similarity that most people don't notice is the behavior of schoolchildren. The Western world seems to think of Japanese students as some sort of miracle, studious pupils who study their hardest and take the grind of competition in stride. And the truth is.... well, they certainly have more to live up to than their Western counterparts (I'll explain in a moment), but that doesn't mean that they like it. And that doesn't mean that they don't goof off! I don't think I'd ever seen so much goofing off as when I went to high school for a few weeks a couple years ago. One girl actually yelled right in the middle of class! But it's the same as any other class - there are hard workers, and there are class clowns.

College students are worse - they spend all of their academic life working to get into the best high school so that they can then get into the best college, and then.... they're basically automatically pushed towards graduation. As long as they come to class more or less on time, and take the tests, they'll pass. There are so many stories of our (the foreign students') Japanese classmates just...not working. Not doing their share of a project until the very last minute. But again - there are hard workers, and there are class clowns.

As for having more to live up to: this part is true. A schoolchild's schedule might be as follows: Wake at 7. Eat breakfast. Go to school for 8:30. School ends at 3:30 or 4. Go to club. Come home at....anywhere between 5 and 7. (At this point you might have eaten dinner at school. A lot of schools accommodate after-school students like this.) Go to tutoring. Come home at 9 or 10. Go to bed. The reason for the clubs and tutoring is this: clubs are deemed a necessary function. This is how you'll introduce yourself - "Hi, I'm Matsumoto, from the baseball team." And if you don't do a club from elementary school, you have no chance of getting into an official Club in college. And to get to the best college, you have to go to tutoring to pass the entrance exams. But again - not every kid does this, and certainly not every kid likes it.
 
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you'll find alcohol vending machines
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fucking yes i'm on my way
get me a ticket, too plz

i've always wondered how people react to americans. they show stuff on tv, but you know how hollywood is. granted, you're in "kyoto" and not "tokyo" but as you've said it doesn't seem like it's that much different.

oh here's one, another thing i've seen/heard about, is everyone like, literally doesn't even acknowledge that there are other people around them, and they just like, walk to where they need to go and don't even pay attention to anything. more specifically, (and i realize my questions have been a bit out there..) if someone were, say, getting mugged, do you think that the people would help or just continue on their way like i've seen?

EDIT: let me change the question. do you feel like the people in kyoto as a whole follow rules/laws better than americans? such as, is there a lot of crime in the news, or much much less of it?
 
really you guys stand in line for trains and subways? here it's just like, you go and stand on the platform then bum rush the doors when they open, hoping desperately you don't get caught in them when they close :x
 

Jason

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Well I don't use the train too often, and when I do, there's hardly anyone at the station anyways, so we all get a door each, lol...

But every morning there's at least 4-12 people at the bus stop, and obviously we don't stand in a line while waiting, but when it does come, we make a line to wait for everyone to get on... it's stupid trying to all rush in at once, cause you just know it's not gonna' work...
 

Tindy

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psiclone: Ahahaha NO. It's really funny, actually - there's very little major crime because...well, I don't know the exact reason, but guns are strictly outlawed, so there's way less gun-crime - but little laws? Pfft. So I ride a bike to school every morning, yeah? We're supposed to ride on the left side of the rode, off the sidewalk, not listening to an iPod, and with no double-riders. And every morning when I go into school, I narrowly avoid idiots on the wrong side of the road, who may or may not be on the side walk, probably listening to their iPod, and maybe with their girlfriend on the back.

The Japanese *are* better at actively following instructions, though. I think, anyway. Like on a bus - talking on your cell phone is forbidden. You can text, but no conversations. The Japanese...just don't do it. I have a feeling it's because they don't want to be the odd man out - societal shame and all that.

In regards to your first question... They don't really act like it, but a lot of people still think that Americans are gun-toting ignorant loudmouths. They get really surprised when you tell them otherwise.

Atlet: Yes. :X No seriously. But only the more "normal" anime...like, take Pokemon, subtract Team Rocket and the Pokemon, and you've basically got Japan.

Arbie: They line up quite nicely...and then people join their friends halfway through... and then the train comes and it's a free for all. But they're lined up nicely while they wait!
 

moog

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Tindy how did you get there, is it a school exchange program? How are you affording it? Ive always wanted to travel to japan but little things always keep me from looking into it.
 
I actually have a question. Sadly, I was only in Japan for about a week, so I feel that I didn't spend enough time there to get a full feel for the place.

How difficult are the high school classes academically? Are they like AP equivalents here or easier?
Secondly, how nice are the people?
I received some nice greetings while I was there. I thought it was only because I was American.
How do they treat you?
 

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