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Yeah I guess that'll work. Maybe try adding a similar point to the third strand back. taht'll make the lengths look more uneven. it mau look better it may look worse but give that a go. I'd also give the hair a little darker feel. It's too reminiscent of "Cloud" blonde at the moment. Zidanes hair is a little more pastel-like and a bit more mousy other than that it's very close now.
 

NexS

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soory, but this is not going to be "awesome job"

i have to pick on the colours: his vest is more green than anything and the pants are a less saturated blue

the hair looks far too unnaturalhis hair comes more down the side of his face not back ish... and he need to be much shorter and he has a tail :D

another thing is that he needs to be thin... not muscular... but if it comes through then i will be extrordinarily happy :D
 
NexS said:
soory, but this is not going to be "awesome job"

i have to pick on the colours: his vest is more green than anything and the pants are a less saturated blue

the hair looks far too unnaturalhis hair comes more down the side of his face not back ish... and he need to be much shorter and he has a tail :D

another thing is that he needs to be thin... not muscular... but if it comes through then i will be extrordinarily happy :D

Why the hell would his tail be visible from the front? Or rather: Why should I spend ten minutes getting his tail right if it likely wouldn't show up in the front anyway?

The vest isn't green. Look at an official picture; one in the manual, strategy guide, the official site, one of the ones I used. His vest is dark, wrinkled blue,so that's what I did.

I spent almost 2 hours on his hair yesterday. I'm proud it looks the way it does. If I had any older pictures, I could show you what is started as, but I don't and you'll have to settle.

As for his size; I'm using a template. I would be using the bishonen template if that had been made yet, but it hasn't. I'm not about to spend six hours nickpicking this one just so I can have to do it to everyone else to make them proportional.

Critisism is welcomed, but not critisism on things I've already fixed, or on incorrect things. Why does everyone think his clothes are green anyway? They're blue, plain and simple.
 
NexS said:
http://www.ffodyssey.com/wallpapers/ff9/ff9_zidane3_1024x768.jpg
if you cant tell that his vest is more green than blue then you have vision problems...
as for the tail, weather you chose to put the tail on or not shouldnt really affect the overall sprite...

but on thing i will say is do not argue about final fantasy with me...
me = final fatasy bitch

':| Yet another example of a picture of Zidane that is T-I-N-T-E-D G-R-E-E-N.

Does... does nobody see that? Look at ANY official screenshot or even thatr very same picture on the official site. IT IS BLUE.
 
Emumaster2002 - Why not post that quick recolour I showed you via Pm and see what the opinions on the colours are?

Look in Nexs sig, that is by no means tinted or faded, the colour of his clothing is a colour called "Cadet Blue", look it up, it really is. You asked for feedback and that is the truth, his clothing has Never Ever been a deep blue.

Do you not think if you are the only one that see that then it's maybe you that has the wrong colour? I don't mean that offensively, I just think the right colour will massively improve it... up to you though.

http://web.forret.com/tools/color.asp?RGB=5F9EA0&name=Cadet+blue

BTW - That link that Nexs provided is the Most BLUE I have ever seen Zidane appear as. Not the most green.
 

Zeeph

Member

It should look more like this:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d130/ ... 2/Zid1.jpg[/img] ---> (Image removed for fear of EmuMaster2002's usage)

Make sure you get the correct colors and details - basically just take a closer look at your reference pictures. And I'm a bit confused as to why you used 1100 colors for such a small sprite, when you could easily get the same result with 1000 colors less. You're off to a good start, but just pay more attention to the details.
 
Yeah, you aren't even using the same template, nor is the vest even close to the right color, so why are you telling me that's what it should look like?

I look at Zidane, I see blue, and at this point, if that's all you can say about the sprite, I don't want to hear it. Yeah, my eyes are fucked up, but I don't want constant reminding of how horrible the colors of my sprite are. I wanted criticism on the shape, detail and hair.

Zeeph, that hair is great, but like I said, the template isn't even half-kaiser, and if it is, it's heavily modified. This is the first sprite I've ever done on top of a template, without having the original sprite to look at. I'm not worried so much about details as I am about fucking something important up.

That said, if you want to do the side and back view of that hair, I'd gladly paste it on top of my crap.

I used 256 color bitmap, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm doing the entire thing in idraw.
 
No his vest is far nearer the right colour. Why won't you listen to the 4 people now that have told you that. Not one person has said, actually Zidanes top is deep blue... I posted you a link to the colour, thats what colour it is and thats why everyone keeps telling you the colour is wrong.

Plain and simple.

It doesn't matter what template it is on, the detailing on Zeephs is generally correct. Noone is flaming yours, we are telling you why it is wrong but you choose to ignore any advice. Why post something in resource analysis if you don't want it analysed?

If you look at Zeephs they arent a million miles apart anyway, his just contain the things I suggested to you a few days ago. Thr trim on the jacket, the way the gloves pertrude away from his arms, the way i said the hair should seem as though it rises then falls and the bloody COLOUR.

It's a good base to work on but until you actually LISTEN to the feedback you get, it WILL NOT improve.
 

Zeeph

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EmuMaster2002 said:
Yeah, you aren't even using the same template, nor is the vest even close to the right color, so why are you telling me that's what it should look like?

I look at Zidane, I see blue, and at this point, if that's all you can say about the sprite, I don't want to hear it. Yeah, my eyes are fucked up, but I don't want constant reminding of how horrible the colors of my sprite are. I wanted criticism on the shape, detail and hair.

Zeeph, that hair is great, but like I said, the template isn't even half-kaiser, and if it is, it's heavily modified. This is the first sprite I've ever done on top of a template, without having the original sprite to look at. I'm not worried so much about details as I am about fucking something important up.

That said, if you want to do the side and back view of that hair, I'd gladly paste it on top of my crap.

I used 256 color bitmap, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm doing the entire thing in idraw.

Ah, now that's incredible - it's been a while since I found someone as ungrateful and aggressive as yourself on the internet, especially after spending over an hour and a half of my life helping you - a complete stranger, no less.

And the most hilarious thing is that you didn't even recognize your own sprite. This is not my sprite, it's just a fixed version of your own (hence the name "ZidaneFIX"). Heck, I even wrote "Zidane, by EmuMaster2002" after fixing it, but decided to remove it to make it look cleaner. I left most parts unshaded so that you could perhaps continue where I left off and make a better looking Zidane.

Your rude reply is wrong in so many ways, that I won't even bother spending another minute helping you and proving my intention.
 
Stupid Mother F*cker! You're a dead man! You hear me! Dead! I'm gonna rip out your eyeballs and castraite you using a bluntened cheese grater!

... What... Death Threats are welcome!
 
Thanks, Petros.

Zeeph, I'm not ungrateful, I'm just damn tired of being told the colors on my sprite are wrong, when every picture I have of Zidane displays a blue vest.

I'm aggresive? You would be too. I just lost ALL of the data on my game not four days ago. That was at LEAST 12 hours of work, and I've already considered (very seriously) quitting the use of RMXP and all game makers altogether, because I'm not going to be able to handle losing my entire project at once.

Don't say back it up, though, because I'm in the NOW, not the THEN, and it's too damn late for that. Plus, being paranoid like that ruins the entire game making experience for me.

In short, I've just had the three worst days of my life in the last five days, so excuse me if I'm a little fucking bitter.

Finally, I'm not changing the colors of his vest--period. That's not the criticism I came here for, I came here for criticism on his shape and shading, which I got. Now I require more on the shape of his side animations, which I'm about to upload a new version.
 
...hmm, i get a feeling that there wont be alot more replys to this BUT, I VILL REPLYon da game, and in most pic the shape of his pants are more pooffy near the top, making him kinda look like a rat @_@
 
You seem to have forgotten than Zidane has a tail. Untill you get that, i refuse to rate.

It says its there, but i cant see it. And my eyesight is 100%, my optician said so.

Who said that?!? :D
 

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