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Gulf Oil Spill

The CEO or whatever of BP is being slated by Obama today for going on a Yacht race in his spare time while this crisis continues. What is everyone's thoughts on this?

Personally everybody deserves and needs spare time and what they do in such time is their own decision. It doesn't matter that a world threatening crisis is going on - if you take away anybody's spare time they will not work their best. Everybody needs breaks.
 
How would nuking anything create a barrier?

The only barrier I can think of that would come from blasting a hole in something is radiation stopping life getting through and somehow I don't see that as the major problem here.

Nuking it would create a much bigger problem. Oil leaking out of a -relatively- small hole (small with regards to opening a huge crater) is not quite as bad as opening up the whole reserves.
 
In response to the yacht race thing, I feel that it's a silly thing to complain about. Yes, this is a major disaster and yes, it's an enormous injustice to those who have lost their lives or their livelihoods as a result of it and yes, BP as a company has a lot to answer for for the disasterous results of cutting a few corners but that's BP as a company.

Scapegoating the CEO of BP as a human is not an answer. Because as a human he isn't capable of clicking his fingers and fixing it. He's more than likely not an expert on the science behind everything, probably has people who are experts on the science behind everything hired to do the thinking for him and being away from his desk for one day (and phones exist. Being generous and assuming he wasn't on call for the time spent in the race itself that's only a few hours he would have been unavailable) isn't going to change a whole lot because he wouldn't have acheived a miracle solution while sat at his desk for that one day.

And rechecking that, the fact that it was in his spare time makes it even sillier.

Plus the fact that is was a yacht race that's called out about specifically makes it seem like a not-at-all-subtle 'look at those upper class twits ruining everything and not taking responsibility'. I wonder if there'd be nearly as much fuss if he'd gone to watch a sports game or to spend time with his family or something.

And scapegoating one person is sort of ignoring the problem. Yes it's probably a major major fuckup on BP's part but anyone just saying the only problem is the CEO of BP really just comes off as someone who doesn't care at all and is just pointing at the closest available target. The fact that the fuckups happenned at all means that they were allowed to happen and it's the system that's allowed them to happen that needs to be scrutinized, not one man's personal life.
 
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Plus the fact that is was a yacht race that's called out about specifically makes it seem like a not-at-all-subtle 'look at those upper class twits ruining everything and not taking responsibility'. I wonder if there'd be nearly as much fuss if he'd gone to watch a sports game or to spend time with his family or something.


Hahaha, yeah, and if he had gone to save a bunch of puppies and kittens from a burning building we'd be praising him. But he didn't, so we aren't.
Seriously, have you seen any of the interviews with this guy? He doesn't seem like an upper class twit who is not taking responsibility, he is an upper class twit who's not taking responsibility. I mean, this guy's not even making a real effort to try to look like he cares what's going on, beyond the fact that he wants his life back 0_0
 
I was never trying to say he was a good person and if you're done putting words into my mouth I never said he wasn't an upper class twit who wasn't taking responibility. I was saying that the 'upper class' part of that is largely irrelevant to the problem at hand but that if it was another equally selfish but less stereotypically 'wealthy' (I admit using spending time with his family was a poor example there but watching a sports game is a stronger one) then no or less fuss would be made, especially since it was in his own time. It stinks of using this whole disater as an excuse to go 'look, I'm a normal person like you guys. and this guy is not and look what happenned' and I really expected better.

I know nothing of the man and I'm not going to try to white knight for him. But saying 'this one person is the sole problem' is laughable. There are problems with the systems that have allowed this to happen that can't be overlooked and focussing on one man's personal life is just a convenient way to distract people from that.
 
No, I wasn't saying that you were saying he was as good person, I was saying you were playing the what if game for no reason.

Also, it does matter that he's upper class, because he has both the power to screw things up (Which he's done) and the money to help fix it (which he hasn't)
 
From the looks of it no amount of money would fix this, certainly not the (relatively) small amount of one person's bank account. It wouldn't scratch the surface.
 

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