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Final Fantasy X: A prequel to Final Fantasy VII?

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Wyatt":2tygrsl2 said:
It is also implied, by a comment in Chapter 5, that Shinra may be the namesake for the company of the same name in Final Fantasy VII. Like many character models in this game, Shinra is recycled from a completely unrelated NPC from Final Fantasy X. This implies a possible connection between the two games, though some people question whether or not this is possible.
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As some fans of Final Fantasy VII, X and X-2 may or may not know, the worlds of the two games share a plot-related connection. The connection's existance was established during an interview with Yoshinori Kitase (lead developer of the Final Fantasy series) and Kazushige Nojima (the scenario writer of Final Fantasy VII, Before Crisis, Advent Children, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X-2 and the Kingdom Hearts series) in 2002, as featured in the Final Fantasy X Ultimania Omega guidebook, an official Square-Enix publication.

This interview established that there would be a connection between the two
worlds, though it didn't detail it. However, based on what was later revealed
to be the connection, it's clear that it had already been conceived, as
Kitase hints at it with his final word on the subject. In 2003, the exact
nature of the concept was finally revealed in the Final Fantasy X-2 Ultimania,
having been hinted toward by a few elements of the game.

Nojima revealed that Shinra of the Gullwings, an Al Bhed child prodigy and
inventor of various machinery, would attempt using the remains of Vegnagun --
the behemoth machina Shuyin tried to destroy Spira with -- to extract life
energy from the Farplane and use it to power machines. Shinra would attempt
doing this as a result of his analysis of the Farplane late in the game.
During this diagnostic, Shinra concluded that there was a great deal of energy
floating around inside the Farplane, and that it was most likely the life
force of Spira, which could be extracted and used as a power source; however, he concluded that it would take generations to properly implement the idea.

Further of note is that Nojima explained that the Al Bhed entrepeneur Rin also
was interested in extracting mako from the Farplane, and that he provided
Shinra with the funding to make the attempt. For his part, Rin's desire to do
this is revealed during the game should he be uncovered as the culprit behind
covering up the malfunctioning machina disaster on the Mi'hen Highroad.

Nojima went on to say that Shinra's attempts to use Vegnagun's remains failed and that he was unable to complete the concept of mako-extraction, just as Shinra had predicted. However, some 1000 years later, once space travel became possible, Shinra's descendants would go on a voyage to the world of Final Fantasy VII. There, at some point in the future, they would be successful in utilizing the concept, and would provide electricity from the Planet for a price; these descendants would found the Shin-Ra Company of Final Fantasy VII.

The connection would again be hinted toward in the Final Fantasy X-2:
International+Last Mission (released in 2004) game's Last Mission scenario, in
which Rikku revealed that Rin and Shinra had begun working together. Next,
the Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega guidebook (released in September, 2005) also brings forth mention of the concept, and, finally, the connection may have received further indication through Dirge of Cerberus (released in
January, 2006) and the Advent Children Reunion Files book (released in May,
2006), in which it is established that the Shera airship seen in Advent
Children and Dirge of Cerberus runs on ancient, lost non-mako technology that
Cid discovered. This technology very well may have originally belonged to
Shinra's descendants, as they are the only previous inhabitants of VII's world
indicated to have been in possession of advanced technology, and because the interior of the Shera bears some aesthetic resemblances to those of the
Fahrenheit and Celsius airships that figure prominently into FFX and FFX-2
(though the Shera's interior bears more of a resemblance to the Celsius').
http://forums.daeya.org/showthread.php?t=2476

Rin
"You are suggesting that my decision to upgrade the machina resulted in a
number of casualties... ... and that I tried to cover it up?"

Yuna
"You put the investigation in our hands because we were amateurs. You hoped we
would botch the case."

Yuna
"And then, I kept calling you even though I didn't have any leads."

Yuna
"You would have objected to the meaningless interruptions, if you really
wanted to solve the case."

Rin
"I see. It appears that I have underestimated you, Yuna."

Rikku
"Why, Rin?"

Rin
"If word got out that machina pose a danger, people would fear them and stop
using them."

Paine
"So Yevon's not alone in sweeping things under the rug."

Rin
"I firmly believe that machina are an indispensable part of Spira's
development."

Rin
"Even if there is another incident, I intend to conceal the evidence."

Yuna
"You really think people will follow you that way?"

Rin
"I am not alone in my thinking."

Rin
"We are researching ways to extract the vast energy that sleeps in Spira, and
use it to power machina."

Paine
"You're a jackass."

Rin
"I will take that as a compliment."
Dialogue from X-2

Shinra
"Aha..."

Yuna
"What are you looking at?"

Shinra
"Farplane data."

Shinra
"The more I study it, the more fascinating it gets. There's limitless energy
swirling around in there."

Yuna
"Limitless energy?"

Shinra
"The life force that flows through our planet...I think."

Shinra
"With a little work, we could probably extract the energy in a useable form."

Brother
"Sweet!"

Shinra
"Of course, that'd take generations."

Brother
"That's no fun!"

Buddy
"Well, still, it is something worth shooting for."

Yuna
"Think how much Spira would change if we ever got it to work!"

Yuna
"Maybe one day we could build a city full of light, one that never sleeps!"

Shinra
"No doubt about it."
Dialogue from X-2
This is what led me to belive it, only it was worded different, and not on a wiki.
 
Dopples":23cng7ck said:
Celes_cole":23cng7ck said:
If this is true, that means FFIII and VIII are connected because the world similarities, FFVI and FFT are connected because it mentions Setzer, and FFI is connected to FFIX because of Garland.

Seriously, stupid.
BTW, you know who confirmed this, the pot-smoking, idiot Nomura himself. You know how much I hate him? He draws badly, and makes terrible games (KH). Jeeze. God I hate Square Enix >_<.
Nomura is actually a good game designer if he's not attatched to an already existing set of characters (Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy). The World Ends With You proves this.

I couldn't get into TWEWY. I don't know why. People say it's a good game, but it doesn't really interest me. Atleast Nomura did something that had nothing to do with FFVII or KH.
 
I like to use the same characters in numerous games.  For example, I've feature Metora, the main character in the book I'm writing, in numerous games and such.  It sounds like Square Enix is re-using names.  Are they doing it to draw connections?  I doubt it.  Spira was an entirely different world, and if they wanted to link them, they would have been more obvious about it.  It sounds like a group of people desparately trying to draw connections with their finger.  It's never going to connect fully, but you can make it look good.
 
I use to think the world of FF tactics was set in the future of FF7 because of the whole "airship graveyard" and cloud being a secret character that was transported by a time machine. Plus you got materia as treasure rewards. I kinda thought deep ground in FF7:DoC looked an like Murond the Death City with all the old houses underground. But...there were all those discovered lands in the world of tactics that would connect it to just about every final fantasy game created before it.
I've never played the PSP version of Final Fantasy tactics but Balthier from FF12 is a secret cross over character just like Cloud. Someone else pointed out to me that Balthier's real name "Ffamran Bunansa" shares the same last name as  "Mustadio Bunansa" the engineer in FF tactics. distant relatives?

Now lets try connecting them somehow.

If FFX come before FF7 like you say we could put FFtactics after FF7 and then FF12 after Tactics. It would make since to put FF12 and Tactics together because they share the name Ivalice. (well, none of this makes since)
So it could go: FFX > FF7 > Tactics > FF12
But you it would be hard to tell which came first Tactics or FF12. And then theres the fact the the Al Bhed in FFX were digging up ancient Airships as well, so maybe Ivalice came before Spira...
You know what, this is nonsense.
 

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There are 6 things that link all "canon" FF games together:
1. The Prelude
2. the Battle Theme
3. the victory theme
4. chocobos
5. airships
6. a character named "Cid" usually having to do with airships

These six things are in just about every numbered Final Fantasy as well as a few other FFs.
 
Plus there's usually a Biggs, and a Wedge, normally together (but not always).

And the name "Highwind" shows up a lot.

Plus the names of the summons, either as summons or other things (i.e. the airships in FFXII).

Also, the very notion of summons turns up a lot, either as summons, aeons, espers, or whatever.
 
Wyatt":19urvnaf said:
Plus there's usually a Biggs, and a Wedge, normally together (but not always).

And the name "Highwind" shows up a lot.

Plus the names of the summons, either as summons or other things (i.e. the airships in FFXII).

Also, the very notion of summons turns up a lot, either as summons, aeons, espers, or whatever.

Look, the horse is a goddamn splatter now, you can stop beating it.
 
I don't really see a topic worth discussing here anymore really. I'm gonna' close this unless the mods of this area think that it should remain open.
 
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