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Final Fantasy X: A prequel to Final Fantasy VII?

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Well, I was browsing the WWW, and noticed that there was something in Final Fantasy X-2 that STRONGLY, and I mean STRONGLY, hinted that the world of Final Fantasy X is a before world of Final Fantasy VII.  This thing is the fact that they meet a guy named SHINRA who has an idea TO POWER THE WORLD WITH A NEW KIND OF ENERGY.

If any one has noticed this before, then discuss away.
 
Actually it's been confirmed several times. They are related, the two games. They're just set a few thousand (lol) years apart.

The storyline of FFX was origionally going to be Yuna going around curing the Geo Stigma that features in FFVII-Advent Children!
 
This is interesting stuff. I have heard something about that, yes, but, wouldn't there have to be Jenova around, or at least, someone that knows about all that? Maybe Jenova is Sin's something, or something like that xD. Although, what about Shinra from X-2? Would the kid be the guy? If they are some thousands of year apart, that wouldn't make sense. And did anyone check the worldmaps? That would be able to give relations. And why did things change like names? Portugal was once Portvcal, but I think it's hard to believe that something like Gagazet would become Northern Continent. Well, not that hard, but... you get the drift.
 
hi122neo":3q5p7fwk said:
Well, I was browsing the WWW, and noticed that there was something in Final Fantasy X-2 that STRONGLY, and I mean STRONGLY, hinted that the world of Final Fantasy X is a before world of Final Fantasy VII.  This thing is the fact that they meet a guy named SHINRA who has an idea TO POWER THE WORLD WITH A NEW KIND OF ENERGY.

If any one has noticed this before, then discuss away.

Two people who share various character traits and have the same name? They've gotta be the same person!

I guess all those Cids are the same person too!

And the same must go for all the Garlands, Shivas, Ifrits, and Mogs as well!

...I'm just acting stupid, what's your excuse?
 

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This thread is utter bullshit. You guys cannot seriously buy into this? Like JD said, maybe some alluding but NOT a prequel.
 
In episode 2F09, when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he strikes the same rib twice in succession, yet he produces two clearly different tones.  I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something?  Boy, I really hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
 
It is also implied, by a comment in Chapter 5, that Shinra may be the namesake for the company of the same name in Final Fantasy VII. Like many character models in this game, Shinra is recycled from a completely unrelated NPC from Final Fantasy X. This implies a possible connection between the two games, though some people question whether or not this is possible.
FFVII Wiki

As some fans of Final Fantasy VII, X and X-2 may or may not know, the worlds of the two games share a plot-related connection. The connection's existance was established during an interview with Yoshinori Kitase (lead developer of the Final Fantasy series) and Kazushige Nojima (the scenario writer of Final Fantasy VII, Before Crisis, Advent Children, Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy X, Final Fantasy X-2 and the Kingdom Hearts series) in 2002, as featured in the Final Fantasy X Ultimania Omega guidebook, an official Square-Enix publication.

This interview established that there would be a connection between the two
worlds, though it didn't detail it. However, based on what was later revealed
to be the connection, it's clear that it had already been conceived, as
Kitase hints at it with his final word on the subject. In 2003, the exact
nature of the concept was finally revealed in the Final Fantasy X-2 Ultimania,
having been hinted toward by a few elements of the game.

Nojima revealed that Shinra of the Gullwings, an Al Bhed child prodigy and
inventor of various machinery, would attempt using the remains of Vegnagun --
the behemoth machina Shuyin tried to destroy Spira with -- to extract life
energy from the Farplane and use it to power machines. Shinra would attempt
doing this as a result of his analysis of the Farplane late in the game.
During this diagnostic, Shinra concluded that there was a great deal of energy
floating around inside the Farplane, and that it was most likely the life
force of Spira, which could be extracted and used as a power source; however, he concluded that it would take generations to properly implement the idea.

Further of note is that Nojima explained that the Al Bhed entrepeneur Rin also
was interested in extracting mako from the Farplane, and that he provided
Shinra with the funding to make the attempt. For his part, Rin's desire to do
this is revealed during the game should he be uncovered as the culprit behind
covering up the malfunctioning machina disaster on the Mi'hen Highroad.

Nojima went on to say that Shinra's attempts to use Vegnagun's remains failed and that he was unable to complete the concept of mako-extraction, just as Shinra had predicted. However, some 1000 years later, once space travel became possible, Shinra's descendants would go on a voyage to the world of Final Fantasy VII. There, at some point in the future, they would be successful in utilizing the concept, and would provide electricity from the Planet for a price; these descendants would found the Shin-Ra Company of Final Fantasy VII.

The connection would again be hinted toward in the Final Fantasy X-2:
International+Last Mission (released in 2004) game's Last Mission scenario, in
which Rikku revealed that Rin and Shinra had begun working together. Next,
the Final Fantasy VII Ultimania Omega guidebook (released in September, 2005) also brings forth mention of the concept, and, finally, the connection may have received further indication through Dirge of Cerberus (released in
January, 2006) and the Advent Children Reunion Files book (released in May,
2006), in which it is established that the Shera airship seen in Advent
Children and Dirge of Cerberus runs on ancient, lost non-mako technology that
Cid discovered. This technology very well may have originally belonged to
Shinra's descendants, as they are the only previous inhabitants of VII's world
indicated to have been in possession of advanced technology, and because the interior of the Shera bears some aesthetic resemblances to those of the
Fahrenheit and Celsius airships that figure prominently into FFX and FFX-2
(though the Shera's interior bears more of a resemblance to the Celsius').
http://forums.daeya.org/showthread.php?t=2476

Rin
"You are suggesting that my decision to upgrade the machina resulted in a
number of casualties... ... and that I tried to cover it up?"

Yuna
"You put the investigation in our hands because we were amateurs. You hoped we
would botch the case."

Yuna
"And then, I kept calling you even though I didn't have any leads."

Yuna
"You would have objected to the meaningless interruptions, if you really
wanted to solve the case."

Rin
"I see. It appears that I have underestimated you, Yuna."

Rikku
"Why, Rin?"

Rin
"If word got out that machina pose a danger, people would fear them and stop
using them."

Paine
"So Yevon's not alone in sweeping things under the rug."

Rin
"I firmly believe that machina are an indispensable part of Spira's
development."

Rin
"Even if there is another incident, I intend to conceal the evidence."

Yuna
"You really think people will follow you that way?"

Rin
"I am not alone in my thinking."

Rin
"We are researching ways to extract the vast energy that sleeps in Spira, and
use it to power machina."

Paine
"You're a jackass."

Rin
"I will take that as a compliment."
Dialogue from X-2

Shinra
"Aha..."

Yuna
"What are you looking at?"

Shinra
"Farplane data."

Shinra
"The more I study it, the more fascinating it gets. There's limitless energy
swirling around in there."

Yuna
"Limitless energy?"

Shinra
"The life force that flows through our planet...I think."

Shinra
"With a little work, we could probably extract the energy in a useable form."

Brother
"Sweet!"

Shinra
"Of course, that'd take generations."

Brother
"That's no fun!"

Buddy
"Well, still, it is something worth shooting for."

Yuna
"Think how much Spira would change if we ever got it to work!"

Yuna
"Maybe one day we could build a city full of light, one that never sleeps!"

Shinra
"No doubt about it."
Dialogue from X-2
 
Space travel... That doesn't make sense at some points. So, Spira has the ability to go to FFVII's world, and although they leave the Airship Tecnology, they don't leave anything that will concrretly take them to outer space? I mean, Cid tried it, if the Shinra were around long before him, that would've probably mean they would also leave some of that tecnology.

I mean, why could they do it on FFVII's world and not on Spira? If it's the same kind of energy, there should be a way to do it.
 

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I heard this rumor a few years ago, and had thought it had been confirmed fake.  Wyatt, Rin was never intended as the culprit as evidenced by the fact that he cannot be the culprit in a 100% game.  I don't remember if the Shinra quote was from a 100% percent game, but unless you can show me the actual interviews, I cannot believe wiki.  It is edited by common folk who often mishear, or misread things.
 
There is at least two interviews with staff from Square-Enix confirming that this connection was intensionally included. I'll try to find a good link.
 
If this is true, that means FFIII and VIII are connected because the world similarities, FFVI and FFT are connected because it mentions Setzer, and FFI is connected to FFIX because of Garland.

Seriously, stupid.
BTW, you know who confirmed this, the pot-smoking, idiot Nomura himself. You know how much I hate him? He draws badly, and makes terrible games (KH). Jeeze. God I hate Square Enix >_<.
 
Celes_cole":3e1givjo said:
If this is true, that means FFIII and VIII are connected because the world similarities, FFVI and FFT are connected because it mentions Setzer, and FFI is connected to FFIX because of Garland.

Seriously, stupid.
BTW, you know who confirmed this, the pot-smoking, idiot Nomura himself. You know how much I hate him? He draws badly, and makes terrible games (KH). Jeeze. God I hate Square Enix >_<.
Nomura is actually a good game designer if he's not attatched to an already existing set of characters (Kingdom Hearts, Final Fantasy). The World Ends With You proves this.
 
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