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Earthbound rated by ESRB for the Wii!

This is great news for all you fans of Earthbound (which includes me). The latest news is that Earthbound, that (sort of) famous SNES game, has just been rated by the ESRB (rated E) for the Wii! This means there is a great chance that Earthbound is coming to the Virtual Console! VICTORY!!!
Of course, it isn't set in stone yet...Some games, like Super Mario RPG, were rated by the ESRB months ago, and still haven't made it to the Virtual Console.
But we can still hope! If this sells well, then this may mean a Mother 1,2 and 3 compilation for the DS, or even Mother 4!
Or maybe I'm just being too optimistic...
 

mawk

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Well, I really doubt Nintendo will ever really release the rest of the Mother series northside. Now, in Mother's case, a North American release is a little more likely because they fully translated it before deciding not to release it after all -- the NES was more or less dead by this point. However, if they still have their hands on a copy of the original translation (I doubt that the beta cartridge that made it out to the public and then into ROMland was the only one they had,) they're certainly capable of dumping it to ROM or whatever it is they do to turn old games into Virtual Console pieces.

Now, Mother 3 is another matter, I'm afraid. Looking at the labours of the people over at the Mother 3 Translation Project, it's clear that the game was never coded with a North American release in mind. The team has had to go right into the game's guts and jigger a lot of subroutines, and they've been working at it for about a year and a half now.

That said, Nintendo of America, unlike Mato and crew, have access to Mother 3's source code (which would really be instrumental fixing most of the game's hesitations regarding English, since all Mato and crew have had to work with is the compiled code itself,) and could probably get twenty times the programmers working on it as Mato, jeffman, byu, and everyone else have.

Of course, there's another issue. I'm afraid of Nintendo censorship. People continually assure me that Nintendo's censorship isn't "that bad anymore." I was sort of freaked out when they took the Red Cross off of everything in Earthbound and all that, but... I certainly hope they realize that Mother 3 isn't just a kid's game if they ever decide to localize it. Mother 3 is laced with death and sadness. It's part of what makes the game's atmosphere so unique -- it's wacky and offbeat at times, like the other two instalments, but it has some very emotional bits as well, and the two faces of the game are able to coexist without any sort of audible shifting in gears. I'm not so worried about the little visual gags and light instances of homoerotic humour, because they're not such big contributors to the game as all the tragedy is. I'm just afraid that Nintendo would try to make the game "kid-friendly" by removing or softening most instances of death in the game -- that simply wouldn't do! (After all, the Red Chimera wouldn't be half as badass if it didn't kill helf the people in the Facility before you first see it.)

But yeah, Earthbound was the number one game on their list, and I think they're going to make good on that commitment. After all, Sonic was the number one requested third party character (another day, Geno, another day,) and he was placed in Brawl, after all. As for the rest of the series, well, Reggie and company have been ignoring the great pains that tens (hundreds?) of thousands of Earthbound fans have taken to date (and these are all people who would be guaranteed to buy Mother/3 if it came out, too, let alone all the people new to the series who would be interested if they didn't mess up their advertising again.) But, I dunno, now that people have voted Earthbound the number one Nintendo console game of all time (in essence,) maybe they'll start to shift their paradigm a little.

Let's just hope. : D
 
Chimmie Ray":2rh2mvtp said:
Of course, there's another issue. I'm afraid of Nintendo censorship. People continually assure me that Nintendo's censorship isn't "that bad anymore." I was sort of freaked out when they took the Red Cross off of everything in Earthbound and all that, but... I certainly hope they realize that Mother 3 isn't just a kid's game if they ever decide to localize it. Mother 3 is laced with death and sadness. It's part of what makes the game's atmosphere so unique -- it's wacky and offbeat at times, like the other two instalments, but it has some very emotional bits as well, and the two faces of the game are able to coexist without any sort of audible shifting in gears. I'm not so worried about the little visual gags and light instances of homoerotic humour, because they're not such big contributors to the game as all the tragedy is. I'm just afraid that Nintendo would try to make the game "kid-friendly" by removing or softening most instances of death in the game -- that simply wouldn't do! (After all, the Red Chimera wouldn't be half as badass if it didn't kill helf the people in the Facility before you first see it.)
Yeah, that's my major issue as well. I'm almost hoping that Mato and crew will finish the translation instead of Nintendo releasing Mother 3 here. How great would the game be if it was censored? Of course, if NOA did release Mother 3 here (which would never happen, but you know, we can hope) I would definitely buy it, no doubt about that. But NOA does censor quite a bit...
Anyway, I'm still rejoicing in the fact that Earthbound is probably coming to the VC. The original Mother coming to the VC would be enough to make me unbelievably happy...doubt it would ever happen. Even if it did, how many non-Earthbound fans would buy a game called Mother? If I didn't know about the series, I would probably think it's a game about some Mom taking care of her family, like a House-Simulation...*shudders*
 
I hope Earthbound comes out on the VC soon...and they need to give us Mother 3 too...I hate how they give us Mother 3 stuff in Smash and not give us the game. >_>
 
I also can't believe how they removed EB from the SSBB "Masterpieces" section...If that game wasn't a masterpiece, I don't know what is...
Of course, maybe it was because they knew they were gonna release it on the VC...and thought that if more people played it on SSBB, they thought that they wouldn't buy it on the VC. It's a possibility... :shock:
 
Indeed EarthBound/MOTHER 2 was a masterpiece. (I heard that NoA took it out to avoid lawsuits?)
What really surprised me was that MOTHER/EB 0 made it past Majora's Mask. Must be the power of EB fans..

But hearing that both EB and MOTHER made it in the top list makes me very happy.
 

Hero

Member

Um, what lawsuit would Nintendo be involved in if they kept the demo within SSBB? If you ask me, it just shows that NoA hates the game. I don't understand it though. They hated EB just because it didn't sell well in its debut in NA? If you ask me, the fans at Starmen should've convinced NoA to bring over the rest of the Mother series. I really hope they come out with a compilation for the DS, seeing as Lucas is growing pretty popular in SSBB (He's one of my most used characters and I see others use him pretty much on wifi).
 

Marcus

Sponsor

If you ask me, the fans at Starmen should've convinced NoA to bring over the rest of the Mother series.

they tried.  last year the heads of starmen.net basically went on a dinner date with the lead producers at NoA.  after dinner, they gave them a hand bound book containing high gloss prints of hundreds of fan art.  the NoA guys said "we're thinking of getting earthbound ready for a VC release sometime this year.  if it sells well on VC, we will consider Mother 3."

that was in September 07.
 

mawk

Sponsor

I think the fact that Nintendo released Magical Starsign Northside to "test the waters" for Brownie Brown games should give us all an idea of how they're handling the situation. :x
 
I'm not too worried about censorship; mostly because they're completely willing to publish the text-RPGs by Cing (Another Code/Hotel Dusk) which both dealt with some heavy subject matter.

Although I must say that I'm far more interested in Mother 3 than the VC release of Earthbound. As great as the story was, it was something of a chore to play. The alterations M3 made to the battle system improved things significantly.
 

moog

Sponsor

I never really got to finish EB on the SNES because my copy got stolen when I was a kid. I beat the ROM but still didnt get that sense of satisfaction. Either way, it was a pretty good game but the begining was a tad boring. I dont see what all the humongous fuss about it is, although I have heard Mother 3 is significantly better than it.
 

Marcus

Sponsor

Mother 3 is the best RPG on the GBA and probably the best 2D RPG of the entire decade.  IMO it's importance to the evolution of console RPG's is on the same vein as Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6.  It kicks the crap out of all of the generic weeaboo garbage the GBA is swimming in and it's probably the most mature and well told plot ever from Nintendo (Twilight Princess?  Majora's Mask?  Wind Waker?  Pfff, don't hold a candle). 

It's still a light hearted game and the same applies to Earthbound but the Mother series "cuteness" is juxtaposed by the fact that the plots can be pretty disturbing (Giygas was inspired by Guinea Pig that Itoi saw as a kid A RAPE MOVIE INSPIRED GIYGAS).  I mean, you can't even fight Giygas in Earthbound because he's pure evil and you literally crawl through an alien vagina before battling him (it symbolizes his birth and Giygas looks like a distorted fetus umbilical cord and all).  Mother 3 really got the storytelling part down pact and the battle system is 30x more fun than Earthbound so it's a much more acceptable game to play.  I think this is probably one of 5 RPG's in history that ISN'T about saving the world and it actually takes place over a period of years instead of SAVE THE WORLD YOU HAVE A WEEKEND TO DO IT!

At the end of Mother 3, Lucas literally RESETS the world by calling on the dragon to destroy it and all the evil the Pig Army spread.

Nintendo is sitting on one of gaming's greats and they are holding it back for whatever stupid fucking reason.  PEOPLE NEED TO PLAY THIS GAME because it kicks the shit out of PERSONA 3 DATING SIM RUN THROUGH TARTARUS and DISGAEA LEVEL UP 1200 YEAR OLD DEMON IN 11 YEAR OLD BODY TO LVL 250.  It's almost like they're afraid that if this game gets worldwide attention than *gasp* RPG's will be held to a higher standard and Nippon Ichi won't make 50 billion dollars releasing another half assed compilation of submissive blondes and vapid moeblobs.

I cannot rant about the greatness of Mother 3 enough because having to resort to playing the game through a translation script just doesn't do it justice.
 
10 bucks say that Earthbound is showin' up on the VC tomorrow, I hope everyone buys the crap out of it...(I don't think that didn't even make sense, lol) Maybe that will get Nintendo to give us Mother 3.
 
!!!If Earthbound comes to VirtCon I would be so happy!!!  I have a whole list of snes/nes games that I'm anxiously anticipating... Megaman for example...
 
I'm not really exited, at least for a new release soon.
I mean...

Super Mario RPG LOTSS had a rating for weeks, and it still hasn't gotten its Wii-Shop place..
 

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