Drinking to get drunk: Why it's clever

[Roman Candle]

There's obviously some huge culture gap here, because people really aren't getting this thread. I didn't really intend to go into whether people should drink at all or not.

Alan., what exact experience has happened to you to give you this impression? People don't do things differently when their drunk, just worse. And happier. People generally don't become angry or depressed until their in a really sorry state. I havn't seen it happen to anyone.

And I've never had a hangover. Only adults do, really.

And TREG, you sent me a PM saying Happy 16th birthday last November :D

 

[Despain v.1]

I can drink until I am completely pissed and never wake up with a hang over.

You're Irish.

 

[|3_32]

I don't suffer hangovers, although I tend to suffer from the fact I can't remember the name of the girl next to me

But yeah, stop bashing drinking, if you drink to get drunk, to feel a high, or to just try and make you feel better, your drinking for a reason. Its the people who either, make a reason to drink, or drink to no real reason at all that I like to call weird.

Sayinfg that, I'm drunking Absithion, which is the 'legal' alternative to the popular drink Absynth, often refferred to as the green fairy for obvious reasons. But I'm drinking, cos I'm allowed, and because I am somewhat inquisitive to the ways of olde, where artists would drink this as a way to halucinate and more often then not, create a masterpiece, if not somewhat retarded piece of art. And let me just say, its actually nice, if a bit bnitter. and at 55% thats about 110 proof for the amercians outthere, its gonna keep me drnk for a while yet, gotta get ready to allow someone I don't know near me to have my hair cut

 

[Lene]

A drunk driver is much more of a danger than one who is sober, no matter how you try to twist it around. I don't think your arguement would hold up in court/insurance offices Wings.

 

[|3_32]

Talking of drink driving, my mate passed his driving test after a pint, he even got picked up outside the pub, cos it calmed him down. Although Dru8nk Driving is stupid and often requires silly amounts of posts to explain away, a pint, or even half a pint, shouldn't be a good reason to shout at people if they then go crash their cvar.

 

[Andy6000]

Wings never said that a drunk driver is just as safe as a sober one. What he said is that all things that can happen while you're drunk can also happen while you're sober. The reason may be different, but there's still the capacity for it to happen. Getting drunk simply makes the probability of the bad stuff happening while driving go up. Even if the driver isn't drunk, if there's drunks in the car, the probability goes up.

Also, I have no problem with drinking, drinkers, or whatever. I have a problem with people who are addicted to drinking, idiots who get drunk for no reason, and my brother (probably falls into both categories listed above). Drinking is probably about as bad for you and others as a lot of 'bad' drugs like heroin. While there's a much higher chance for a 'OMG OD' with heroin, there's also less of a 'OMG CAR WRECK'. For the record, I have no idea if I'm right about the heroin thing.

 

[Durastik]

The thing is drinking in a way where you don't get drunk is actually good for you, it's proven that a certain amount of wine etc can actually help you live longer. Even Jesus drank, but you never see the bible saying "And Jesus went on the piss", because back you din't drink until you were drunk without reason.

I know alot of people who are young and just drink to get drunk, ultimately it's pointless as you just end up worse then when you started. I in no way bash heavy drinkers, but i've seen my sister go through rehab twice because of drinking problems, and i've seen the stuff she's gone thorugh because of her problem.

Peace

 

[Mr.Mo]

The thing is drinking in a way where you don't get drunk is actually good for you, it's proven that a certain amount of wine etc can actually help you live longer. Even Jesus drank, but you never see the bible saying "And Jesus went on the piss", because back you din't drink until you were drunk without reason.

Do you know how many people back then were drunk??? It was worse back then, then today, specially in rome.

 

[Alan.]

The reason Jesus drank was because back then it was safer to drink wine than water.
For the record, I never said that getting drunk makes angry or violent, just that it makes you lose your sense of judgement and you might do something you'll regret.

 

[Wings]

The reason Jesus drank was because back then it was safer to drink wine than water.
For the record, I never said that getting drunk makes angry or violent, just that it makes you lose your sense of judgement and you might do something you'll regret.

Drinking till you are drunk impairs your motor skills (reflexes and whatnot). It also makes things a bit hazy depending on your "level" of intoxication (which I can assume you mean by sense of judgement). However do I regret getting into an argument with a tree when driving a government vehicle? No. I was questioned by a few staff NCOs (non commissioned officers), as well as the military police. Did they know I was pissed? Yes. Did they care? No. Special circumstances I suppose.

Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever had any regrets...regardless of being drunk. Maybe being with my last girlfriend, but that's about it. But as I said, everyone is different. Everyone has different reactions to alcohol intake. There are those who are suave...there are those who are normal...and then there are those who make complete arses of themselves.

But I am completely for drinking. I mean, who really doesn't want the occasional beer here and there? Or maybe some of the good stuff (this is intended for the grown adults of the forum...not the kiddies who felt it necessary to judge an action especially when they are not even old enough to hold a beer bottle).

 

[Alan.]

Actually what I meant by sense of judgement was stuff like arguing with trees. I'm sure you wouldn't have done that if you were sober. And in response to your last comment, I'm sure all those "kiddies" with alcoholic parents know the effects it can have.

 

[Wings]

Actually what I meant by sense of judgement was stuff like arguing with trees. I'm sure you wouldn't have done that if you were sober. And in response to your last comment, I'm sure all those "kiddies" with alcoholic parents know the effects it can have.

Actually I blame the weather conditions for the accident with the tree, not me being drunk. Probably should of pointed that out to begin with. I was up in Fort Lewis, Washington when it happened. It was raining heavily, there was a thick layer of fog...the visibility was maybe five metres. Besides I was only going about 10km/hr when it happened. So apparently my judgement was fairly good.

 

[Andy6000]

Actually I blame the weather conditions for the accident with the tree, not me being drunk. Probably should of pointed that out to begin with. I was up in Fort Lewis, Washington when it happened. It was raining heavily, there was a thick layer of fog...the visibility was maybe five metres. Besides I was only going about 10km/hr when it happened. So apparently my judgement was fairly good.

God I think I remember that day. I call such fog death fog. Also, why aren't you up in my area more often? My brother's airforce base is linked with Fort Lewis (He's stationed at McChord). But Wings has a point that alcohol affects people in different ways. For instance, my brother drives much, much better when he's slightly drunk (past buzzed, but not puking/passed out drunk). Usually, he drives like an absolute jackass, has gotten in 3 accidents (nothing HUGE), and has spun the car into a ditch past count, gotten numerous tickets... Yet nothing when he was drunk. It's like he doesn't remember to drive like an idiot.

 

[ryanwh]

I think it has more to do with the fact that he's aware that he's drunk. Its kind of like driving while high, you're not fargone enough to really effect your driving but you're fargone enough to feel the buzz and be aware of it. So you're more careful.

 

[Balore]

I hate alcohol and always will. It's the same way I feel about all things like that. Smoking, drugs, etc.

 

[ryanwh]

I hate the moon. I've never been there, but I hear its smelly cus its made of old cheese. I'll take their word for it, personal experience in developing opinions is overrated.

 

[Balore]

Well I know the side effects and quite frankly, I don't like them.

 

[Wings]

Also, why aren't you up in my area more often? My brother's airforce base is linked with Fort Lewis (He's stationed at McChord).

*Completely Off-Topic*

The reason why I am not up at Fort Lewis that often is because I was discharged from the military about...emm...three to four months ago. A group of guys were given the chance to return after our first assignment there for about six more months, but the BC (Battalion Commander) decided to cancel ':|

Besides, we were stuck in those old WWII barracks the entire time (not the new brick ones they had just built). You know those ones that had been renovated a little bit (adding better toilets)...but are virtually like big log cabins that creak and groan with every little step. Yeah...

But whenever I am up there, I usually hang around the PX.

 

[FoxDemonSoavi]

I have gottne drunk twice to see what it was like. I decided I do not like it. I would rather be sober.

 

[Faeroe]

Off Topic:Wing; honorably discharged or the naughtful dishonorably discharged?

Besides; the PX sucks.

On Topic- Drinking to get drunk is comparable to smoking weed to get high; or eating candy because it is sweet- it serves a primary purpouse and is usually made for that. When you go to the bar; do you either get a) shitfaced, or b) have philosophical discussions with your drunk buddies?

I drink too- and I am aware of these 'ooooooh horrible liver disease21' conditions. You see- I drink in moderation which is a word a lot of you alchohol-bashers may not know. I drink to get drunk but only a -little- drunk or buzz. Even my teachers in middle-school taught me this-

"You can drink if you want- until you are 21; but be sure to drink in moderation- you are more likely to get in accidents when you drink too much."


So I believe this- drinking too much can be rather dangerous at times; but drinking in moderation can lower your intoxication level so you are aware of what is happening.