DeM0nFiRe's Male Template 01

[monkeydlu]

looks good, I like the more proportioned body than most of the templates, but the head. I suggest you shorten the neck again a bit, bring the head down maybe one or two pixels.

 

[DeM0nFiRe]

Makes sense. Here's what I've got for it now:

http://i1.tinypic.com/6xahy5v.png[/IMG]

 

[Colormagix]

Keep at it Demon fire. Your doing great. Hey can I map your progress on this template? I'd like to make a post about you on my blog. http://www.colormagix.org/blog/

 

[DeM0nFiRe]

Ha ha, alright then.
Also, I'd appreciate it if you can also give me advice on my second template when I post it. Think that'd be ok?

 

[DeM0nFiRe]

Alright, I've made some more fixes to it that will hopefully make it look a bit better. Here I'll show you a side by side comparison with my previous version(left) and the new version(right)

http://i12.tinypic.com/6z4r2tg.png[/IMG] http://i3.tinypic.com/6xr95p4.png[/IMG]

 

[craybest]

I think it looks pretty good, nice for more realistic games, ( I'm somewhat sick of such chibi characters..)

 

[DeM0nFiRe]

Thanks! Is there anything you can suggest to make it better?

 

[Despain]

shoulders are too square

 

[Quintinius]

The shoulders could be rounded a bit more.
(Sorry, didn't see Bro's post.)

 

[DeM0nFiRe]

Alright then here we go, I think this may look a little like he's dejected though. What do you guys think?

http://i18.tinypic.com/6oerupz.png[/IMG]

 

[sixtyandaquarter]

I kept wanting to pop in and say something too... and kept forgetting... and now the advice I would've given is outdated.

I still think the head is a little too domed. It looks like an oversized (oddly) microcephalic.

You ran into a problem I ran into with my template as well XD
Two pixel crotch, when standing up straight creates a thick double line - however with this template being smaller it's actually less a problem, if a problem at all..

This is contradictory, but I think an earlier version had better shoulders...
http://i3.tinypic.com/6xr95p4.png[/img]http://i18.tinypic.com/6oerupz.png[/img]
The left version is a little square in the shoulders, but that's hard to remedy. In the newer version it appears as if his arms start more than half way to his nipples.
I would say take the opposite, instead of lowering the outter curve of the shoulders, perhaps raising by a pixel closer in, but that might make him look neckless and set ya back one.

Galuck demo, either way you're making good progress.

EDIT
Hope you don't mind but I was in a pixeling mode. I attempted to show how I would edit this sprite.
It's a combination of two of your versions, with some minor editing to shoulders and head.
Yours are on the right, mine the left.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g147/ ... EDIT-1.png[/IMG]
I also zoomed in 5x because looking at this sprite at 100% size for detail is hurting my old man eyes.
I know some people get huffy when you touch their sprites, hope no line was crossed.
Laters, galuck, and good job with the progress.
EDIT and I still get things wrong lol. Fixed something I had screwed up in the first example I posted, but there's still a problem with the neck, etc. Heh, you know what don't even bother listening to me I can't make my own template and I'm screwing up yours XD

 

[DeM0nFiRe]

WHAT?!? LEAVE MAH PIXULZ ALOWN!

:P

It's ok, and I see what you're saying with some of that. I agree the new shoulders are way too low down, and the head is oddly shaped. I can keep working on those things.

 

[DeM0nFiRe]

Alrighty, I;ve made an attempt at movement frames, and I've tried the back. If you guys can let me know if I'm doing this right, that'd be great ^^

http://i7.tinypic.com/851hwtw.png[/IMG]

 

[NexS]

ok, first up, who do you know that steps and swings with the same side hand and foot? nd on the same thing, theup and down have opposites of what i just said...

on the swinging arms, kill of a few pxlzz on the shoulders so that he doesn't look like a robot :P then get back to me for some more bitching :P

 

[Blood_Puppet]

I'm not suggesting you take this and make the style consistent, no one can get that far on their first try, but just look at what I've done and take a few pointers from it. A pixel is worth at least five words, and I've never been one to give an eloquent critique.

http://www.paper-hearts.org/pixel/demonfireresprite.png[/img]

 

[DeM0nFiRe]

@ Blood_Puppet: Well, what you've done is a completely different style now. I mean, that just doesn't fit really with what I'm trying to do. I mean, it's good, just not the right style.

@Nexs: Darn me, I tried to do it with the opposite arm swinging and I geuss I spaced or something :D BUt yeah, The shoulders do need some fixing too. Thanks.

 

[Blood_Puppet]

And... don't give the style excuse for poor spriting. I've heard it a thousand times.

I felt that Despain's statement about another template would apply here. Tell me if I'm wrong, Des.

He looks like the bastard child of gumbi and a lego. so I tried to give him some form. Hey, if that's what you want, go ahead, but I'll let you know that it won't catch on.

Who am I kidding, no template besides RTP has ever "caught on".

Defining his limbs will give you more practice, look at it that way.

I mean, that just doesn't fit really with what I'm trying to do.

Now, if you could, please tell me what you're trying to do? Give me a good reason for his lack of form and I'll support you. Right now I see you as trying to pass off an inability for style and discrediting help offered to you. I didn't ask you to drop your own template and finish my edit, I asked you to examine how to make yours better through comparing yours to mine. I'm only trying to help. 

 

[Mascarpone]

shoulders are too boxy.

waits is too boxy ..

it's too square. round it up a bit.

 

[Samboy]

Well, first off, take off your shirt. I'm dead serious.

Now, stand in front of a mirror. Look at your torso. It's not straight up and down, is it?

Thats why I think Blood_Puppet has a decent point when he says look at his sprite. He's not trying to belittle you, he's trying to help. Now look at his examples' torso. Yeah, you get me now? Otherwise your sprites gonna have the physique of Santa Claus, which doesn't exactly make it enticing.

 

[DeM0nFiRe]

And... don't give the style excuse for poor spriting. I've heard it a thousand times.

I felt that Despain's statement about another template would apply here. Tell me if I'm wrong, Des.

He looks like the bastard child of gumbi and a lego. so I tried to give him some form. Hey, if that's what you want, go ahead, but I'll let you know that it won't catch on.

Who am I kidding, no template besides RTP has ever "caught on".

Defining his limbs will give you more practice, look at it that way.

I mean, that just doesn't fit really with what I'm trying to do.

Now, if you could, please tell me what you're trying to do? Give me a good reason for his lack of form and I'll support you. Right now I see you as trying to pass off an inability for style and discrediting help offered to you. I didn't ask you to drop your own template and finish my edit, I asked you to examine how to make yours better through comparing yours to mine. I'm only trying to help. 

What on earth was all that about?
When did I say that my sprite was good, and when did I say that yours wasn't? All I said was that yours is a different style than what I'm trying for. I didn't say mine was a prime example of the style. I know that my sprite is crap, and I'm trying to make it better according to the advice I am being given. However, I'm not going to make it a completely different style even if that is a quicker way to making it look better. I'd prefer taking a longer time and getting it to look the way I want it.