CUT BACK ON THE SPOILERS
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Heh now that you mention it I realize I have been overusing spoilers a bit :X
Originally it was intended for organization and size, this way you could find the "features" section without having to scroll through a large plot synopsis, twenty character bios, and several screenshots. But you do have a point, there are probably better ways to "organize." As long as the rest of the thread is tidy (e.g. without screenshots and random phrases all over the place) it shouldn't be a problem to take out a bunch of spoilers.
Originally it was intended for organization and size, this way you could find the "features" section without having to scroll through a large plot synopsis, twenty character bios, and several screenshots. But you do have a point, there are probably better ways to "organize." As long as the rest of the thread is tidy (e.g. without screenshots and random phrases all over the place) it shouldn't be a problem to take out a bunch of spoilers.
by the way just because you put something in a spoiler doesn't mean it cuts back on the lag
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it's not funny when you do it shingu
If you think it's a dumb rule, I would appreciate it if you actually discussed why rather than cutting and running. It just kind of makes you look silly. If you would actually discuss your reasons for disliking this rule, perhaps some good might come of it.
What kind of philosophy is this!? A forum's improvement covers every aspect, even the small stuff. If something is bad, why not change it? No one's going to be crippled in any way just because they're advised that they should use spoilers only for things that need them! The point is that this sort of thing is ridiculous and unnecessary and makes a topic look bad:
The purpose of this thread is to remind everyone that headers are used for thread organization, with spoilers being used only for the sections that take up a lot of space. Spoilers themselves look awful as an organizational tool.
also guys this is not a rule. it's a suggestion. if it was a new rule it would be stickied and locked.
it's also not an announcement because it's a suggestion. also because it only applies to project topics.
one of the important things in web design is minimizing clicks. every chance you have to minimize the amlount of times your visitors need to click to see content, you are improving your site. making project topics is very much like making a website. it's something to keep in mind.
spoilers work for organizational purposes sometimes. but when i click on a topic in the project discussion forum, I know what to expect. Seeing a long block of tet under "storyline" and then one for "characters" isn't going to surprise me. there's no reason to hide that stuff.
on top of it all, it just looks really stupid a lot of the time. a lot like the whole "photoshop text headers" for storyline, characters, etc. it makes it look like you're putting more effort into your topic than your game, which makes you look like a giagantic fucktard who needs to get his priorities straight.
another web design thing is to focus on two things first: navigation and content are the most important parts of a site. we already have navigation covered, so you guys are responsible for putting content in your topics. that should come first.
it's also not an announcement because it's a suggestion. also because it only applies to project topics.
one of the important things in web design is minimizing clicks. every chance you have to minimize the amlount of times your visitors need to click to see content, you are improving your site. making project topics is very much like making a website. it's something to keep in mind.
spoilers work for organizational purposes sometimes. but when i click on a topic in the project discussion forum, I know what to expect. Seeing a long block of tet under "storyline" and then one for "characters" isn't going to surprise me. there's no reason to hide that stuff.
on top of it all, it just looks really stupid a lot of the time. a lot like the whole "photoshop text headers" for storyline, characters, etc. it makes it look like you're putting more effort into your topic than your game, which makes you look like a giagantic fucktard who needs to get his priorities straight.
another web design thing is to focus on two things first: navigation and content are the most important parts of a site. we already have navigation covered, so you guys are responsible for putting content in your topics. that should come first.
MukanshinBlack
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Shingu":3vrwhdxp said:
He made a topic about this in Project Discussion. I would think he's pretty serious.
Also he is right that using spoilers for everything is a very bad habit. The problem I think though is that how can this rule be inforced other then telling every 2nd person "too many spoilers"?
I also prefer spoilers to help organize the person's topic. That is considering what he is spoiling is GIANT, not a paragraph or so but more.
PS-I typed too slow and too many replies came out which I ignored...
Not Everyone Can:
And Why I think this is stupid:
Not everyone can afford Photobucket...
It was a good way for people with lesser pixel-art talent to make a good-looking, high-class, topic, without having to get others to make the header for them. This is just an opinion, but I think i'll stick with the spoilers...
Afraid to get in trouble using spoilers? Use
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[code]*words*I think that this is an advisory, not a rule that will be enforced.
I initially thought that spoilers were out across the board as well, but they're not. You can still use them to cut down on bulk, just not one-line sections that would be smaller anyway if left alone.
You can't afford free?
A: Spoilers do not look good or high-class
B: They should not be used to replace headers.
C: You don't need to pixel headers. Merely writing it in a larger font or using bold looks and works just as well.
D: It's no longer funny to stick everything you say in spoilers.
Zekallinos
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Anyway, spoilers are quite convenient when you are too lazy to scroll and you are looking at the same 29 posts for a while and since 1/2 is screenshot updates it takes quite some height. Especially first posts.
MukanshinBlack
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Chimmy Ray":3s0rfq3d said:
There's no point to discuss this if it's only an advisory. By tommorrow most everyone who read this topic and didn't care will just be spoiling one line for nothing if this isn't enforced/reminded.
Yes, cutting down on bulk is a good reason to spoiler. The bad thing is though, I've been seeing a lot of people have a spoiler per character (mostly in concept development) and that seems unneccessary. You could always have a broader catogory like "protagonists" and "antagonists".
Also Chimmy, your sig is too big. Spoiler it. >:|
I've confused them too. :P
At any rate, no one expects you to have massive Photoshopped headers, regardless of whether or not a lot of project threads nowadays have them. Using the BBCODE tags at the top of the Full Reply box and that sort of thing, it's possible to make a thread dynamic and pleasing to the eye without having any sort of image in the thread whatsoever.
At any rate, no one expects you to have massive Photoshopped headers, regardless of whether or not a lot of project threads nowadays have them. Using the BBCODE tags at the top of the Full Reply box and that sort of thing, it's possible to make a thread dynamic and pleasing to the eye without having any sort of image in the thread whatsoever.
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/index.html GET IT FREE THERE FOR ONLY $700-$1000!!
I fixed my signature btwSome thread commentary regarding spoilers:
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=44004.0
okay! you go to the thread and read it. you start off with the plot synopsis, which is not in a spoiler. then the spoilers have the details which expand on the plot synopsis. this works. if you like the main content, then you keep going with the spoilers.
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=50335.0
this one has the same thing going on, but there are waaaay too many spoilers in there. it becomes a pain in the ass to open them all and then close them back up and open the next one, etc. if there was one spoiler under each heading rather than two or three, it would be acceptable.
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=53799.0
GOOD JOB! the big thing here is that the screenshots are not spoilered, which works great because these shots really draw you in, sinc ethey have original graphics. the majority of the content isn't spoilered, except for the blurb in the beginning and the links to the videos. the important aspects here that make the game stand out are the graphics and the gameplay, and those (not being spoilered) are the focus of the topic.
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=53817.0
this is a good example of the kinds of topics i'm talking about here. there's absolutely NO INFORMATION about the game that isn't hidden within the spoilers. then the spoilers themselves have ugly-ass text walls within them. As soon as you open it up, you want to close it again "fuck it man I ain't reading that". not to mention it looks like trash anyway
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=51665.0
not as bad as it looks! the formatting within the story ones is good and nice in paragraphs. leads me to think that there's not really a reason for those spoilers, but it isn't horrible. however, when i get to the screenshots i open one and then leave the thread without bothering to come back. there's absolutely no reason to put each screenshot in a different spoiler. you're just wasting the time of the user who wants to look at them
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=53720.0
this one is bad. there's absolutely no content about the game that isn't in the spoilers, and then when you do open them up it's not like they're really hiding much. honmestly when you only have a paragraph or two of text, is there really a need to spoiler them?
i could go on but do i have to
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=44004.0
okay! you go to the thread and read it. you start off with the plot synopsis, which is not in a spoiler. then the spoilers have the details which expand on the plot synopsis. this works. if you like the main content, then you keep going with the spoilers.
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=50335.0
this one has the same thing going on, but there are waaaay too many spoilers in there. it becomes a pain in the ass to open them all and then close them back up and open the next one, etc. if there was one spoiler under each heading rather than two or three, it would be acceptable.
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=53799.0
GOOD JOB! the big thing here is that the screenshots are not spoilered, which works great because these shots really draw you in, sinc ethey have original graphics. the majority of the content isn't spoilered, except for the blurb in the beginning and the links to the videos. the important aspects here that make the game stand out are the graphics and the gameplay, and those (not being spoilered) are the focus of the topic.
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=53817.0
this is a good example of the kinds of topics i'm talking about here. there's absolutely NO INFORMATION about the game that isn't hidden within the spoilers. then the spoilers themselves have ugly-ass text walls within them. As soon as you open it up, you want to close it again "fuck it man I ain't reading that". not to mention it looks like trash anyway
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=51665.0
not as bad as it looks! the formatting within the story ones is good and nice in paragraphs. leads me to think that there's not really a reason for those spoilers, but it isn't horrible. however, when i get to the screenshots i open one and then leave the thread without bothering to come back. there's absolutely no reason to put each screenshot in a different spoiler. you're just wasting the time of the user who wants to look at them
http://rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=53720.0
this one is bad. there's absolutely no content about the game that isn't in the spoilers, and then when you do open them up it's not like they're really hiding much. honmestly when you only have a paragraph or two of text, is there really a need to spoiler them?
i could go on but do i have to
also guys i'm not saying DO THIS BECAUSE I SAY SO. I am trying to teach you guys how to make stronger and more appealing project threads. it's up to you or not whether you take the advice. like I said it's not a rule. if you don't follow my advice though, it's your own problem
MukanshinBlack
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No! This can't be true! >:Omissingno":2fnprrbb said: