with florishes
All vector but made in ps. Will soon make a title screen for it. Here's the story behind it: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66327
C&C much appreciated thanks.
Twilight of Everleryn Logo design
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with florishes
All vector but made in ps. Will soon make a title screen for it. Here's the story behind it: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66327
C&C much appreciated thanks.
I like it with the flourishes. But a couple of things.
1.) lose the tildes (~) next to "of". It's too much, looks unnecessary.
2.) A logo is not and shouldn't be copyrighted. It is a trademark. The correct symbol is a superscript "TM".
3.) The "E" in Everleryn needs to tie into the T in a flowing way. The middle part of the E looks like it belongs to another font, even if it doesn't. You see how the rightmost heavy stoke at the top of the T is fat and round? The middle tine of the E should be a fat/round stroke as well, so it looks congruous. As it stands it almost looks like a backwards 3.
Besides that though it's a very cute logo, very smooth, much better than most of the logos I see from amateur developers!
1.) lose the tildes (~) next to "of". It's too much, looks unnecessary.
2.) A logo is not and shouldn't be copyrighted. It is a trademark. The correct symbol is a superscript "TM".
3.) The "E" in Everleryn needs to tie into the T in a flowing way. The middle part of the E looks like it belongs to another font, even if it doesn't. You see how the rightmost heavy stoke at the top of the T is fat and round? The middle tine of the E should be a fat/round stroke as well, so it looks congruous. As it stands it almost looks like a backwards 3.
Besides that though it's a very cute logo, very smooth, much better than most of the logos I see from amateur developers!
uh you don't have a copyright registered either
also her point was a copyright does not apply to a logo. the game itself can bear a copyright, but for names and logos a copyright is nonsense.
also are you serious about the tildes? they sort of break things up from where I'm standing. if you want things to be consistent with those flourishes, add flourishes to the "of," but don't just toss tildes in because people will read them as separate characters and wonder why they're there.
also her point was a copyright does not apply to a logo. the game itself can bear a copyright, but for names and logos a copyright is nonsense.
also are you serious about the tildes? they sort of break things up from where I'm standing. if you want things to be consistent with those flourishes, add flourishes to the "of," but don't just toss tildes in because people will read them as separate characters and wonder why they're there.
You CAN actually use the TM symbol. Registration is encouraged, to make use of any legal standpoint. The symbol in and of itself represents a govern-less concept, and there are no legal prerequisites to display it on your work. At least, not in most countries, including USA.
Here's another source, so you can say you did your homework.
http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/intell ... 339-1.html
If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
I do agree that the tildes are a bit much. If removing them breaks flow, try a different gradient across the "of" word, or a neutral color (maybe even solid as vs. styled). It's just very distracting.
The layer styles are nice, and look great against a darker background, though a bit bright for a light background. Love the reflection on the borders, a nice post-editing touch that you don't often see. The stylizing of the font is nice, although the vector that tails Everleryn resembles an @ symbol (or another lowercase 'e') at first glance, and can make the reader double-take on it to identify that it is indeed not an additional letter. This is not a problem for common words, but for a proper noun could implicate mild confusion. And in agreement with Venetia, I would say that fattening the centerpoint of the E, where it comes down narrowly, would probably contribute to the overall readability and appearance.
It's simple, and effective. In summary, I like it a lot.
Here's another source, so you can say you did your homework.
http://www.allbusiness.com/legal/intell ... 339-1.html
If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.
I do agree that the tildes are a bit much. If removing them breaks flow, try a different gradient across the "of" word, or a neutral color (maybe even solid as vs. styled). It's just very distracting.
The layer styles are nice, and look great against a darker background, though a bit bright for a light background. Love the reflection on the borders, a nice post-editing touch that you don't often see. The stylizing of the font is nice, although the vector that tails Everleryn resembles an @ symbol (or another lowercase 'e') at first glance, and can make the reader double-take on it to identify that it is indeed not an additional letter. This is not a problem for common words, but for a proper noun could implicate mild confusion. And in agreement with Venetia, I would say that fattening the centerpoint of the E, where it comes down narrowly, would probably contribute to the overall readability and appearance.
It's simple, and effective. In summary, I like it a lot.
theory":1zric53f said:
tyvm for the insights.
I did some research and I'm gonna stick to (C) because TM has a lot of legal implications behind it as in http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-answer ... ark+symbol or this answer --> You can use the TM symbol if you want, but it isn't enforceable until you have registered the trademark.
And I agree, I'll work on the flourishes more
No, seriously--a (c) is entirely incorrect.
You do not copyright a logo.
You don't.
A logo is a trademark of your product, which is copyrighted -- the PRODUCT is copyrighted. Not the trademark of it.
If you want to protect your trademark then you can register it as a trademark, but you cannot copyright it!
You're mixing up the definitions of what is what. Either remove it or add a TM. Otherwise it makes 100% no sense.
And there is nothing wrong with a plain "of". There's no need to add flourishes or tildes or anything to it. Why would anyone care about "of"? It's not the subject or reason for the logo.
PS -- You can't enforce a copyright either for monetary damages unless it's registered. (Just like a trademark)
You do not copyright a logo.
You don't.
A logo is a trademark of your product, which is copyrighted -- the PRODUCT is copyrighted. Not the trademark of it.
If you want to protect your trademark then you can register it as a trademark, but you cannot copyright it!
You're mixing up the definitions of what is what. Either remove it or add a TM. Otherwise it makes 100% no sense.
And there is nothing wrong with a plain "of". There's no need to add flourishes or tildes or anything to it. Why would anyone care about "of"? It's not the subject or reason for the logo.
PS -- You can't enforce a copyright either for monetary damages unless it's registered. (Just like a trademark)
Much nicer. The lighting on the 'T' flourish is a bit off, I think.
The end flourish is much nicer.
I still think the 'of' flourish is a bit much. I really would try it plain. There is such a thing as too much embellishment.
And, once again, I'll add to the statement that copyright is really not appropriate here. TM would be the correct symbol. If you're saying a TM doesn't do anything for you unless you get it registered, neither does a copyright for that matter. TM is more likely to help you than copyright, which really doesn't apply here, at least not in the sense you are thinking. I won't push the issue further, but just wanted to emphasize it a little bit before letting it go.
The end flourish is much nicer.
I still think the 'of' flourish is a bit much. I really would try it plain. There is such a thing as too much embellishment.
And, once again, I'll add to the statement that copyright is really not appropriate here. TM would be the correct symbol. If you're saying a TM doesn't do anything for you unless you get it registered, neither does a copyright for that matter. TM is more likely to help you than copyright, which really doesn't apply here, at least not in the sense you are thinking. I won't push the issue further, but just wanted to emphasize it a little bit before letting it go.
Much better.
Using (c) instead of (r) is important, because using an (r) implies that you have registered it. But all the same, a copyright is different from a trademark, which is more appropriate, and the trademark symbol bears no difference for registered or not.
IMO, the flourish on the o is still just a bit much. But that's just my opinion.
The lighting looks much better now.
Using (c) instead of (r) is important, because using an (r) implies that you have registered it. But all the same, a copyright is different from a trademark, which is more appropriate, and the trademark symbol bears no difference for registered or not.
IMO, the flourish on the o is still just a bit much. But that's just my opinion.
The lighting looks much better now.
Admiral David
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comin out real nice! only thing is it seems like somethings missing from project leader at the bottem, you should give it some shine or something that says HEY i'm the leader lol, it looks spiffy tho!