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Psychics, Real or Posers?

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    Really, do you actually believe these guys? I certainly don't, because the only time I ever see them do anything is on TV! I think it's just another advertising gimmick/Armageddon predictor. What about you?
 
Yeah right ..
You can be smart but who believe's such crap like tele/pyro-Kenesis and all other things ..
Just a menthod to get money from Dumb people
 
Always give more than a "that r dumb" response, please, when arguing for or against a topic.

Personally I don't think I believe in any of this, outside the far chance of correct guest, estimations, subconscious thoughts putting 2 and 2 together, and/or actually knowing ahead of time.  Probability and all that jazz.

Why?  I remember the spoon bending guy from Arkansas.  He wasn't the most famous - but he was barely famous.  He used cheap material spoons of like pewter or something, and melted the backs so they would actually just bend on their own if held up for a bit.  All he had to do was sit in the chair and look at them.  I think it's all parlor tricks, good parlor tricks at times, but nothing more than smoke and mirrors.
 
What about Chriss Angel?

That guy has done more stuff then most psychics, he was able to levitate over 100 feet above ground, WITHOUT A WIRE, or without a helicopter above him, nothing below him.


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Chriss Angel is an illusionist, and a very good one. He will never EVER claim that he has actual supernatural powers, and actually is very vocal when challenging people who claim to. He openly admits that the stuff he does isn't real magic or anything, they're tricks. He really doesn't even factor into this topic at all, except as an example of some sort of authority on the subject who does not believe in it.

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You guys are spelling Criss' name wrong... >.<

ANYWAY.

I think most of the stuff out there is pretty fake, and for amusement.
But, it's not like you can completely, 100% say it doesn't exist, either.
 
'Hmmm... They're talking to me... I see a... m? no, a p? not that... an s?'
'My dad's name was samuel!'
'Yes, come down. He's telling me... November? does that have any significance to you?'
'november was his birthday/deathday/the month he went to war/when my parents divorced etc etc etc!'
*Everyone claps and looks impressed. The women goes back to the seat and everyone is further convinced this retard can talk to the dead*

That's actually what happens on some shows. People who believe that stuff are morons. Watch that south park episode about it.
 
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You guys are spelling Criss' name wrong... >.<

No they arent. Try www.crissangel.com/

And I'm not so sure. I mean, Ms cleo, and that lady on Montel, they are obvious fakes.
Other people I've seen, i dont know.

One person had a shuffled deck of cards behind his back, and pulled one out and showed it to the audience(he had his back to the audience.)
Every single card he pulled, another guy, the "psychic" guessed correctly.

Then, just to prove it wasnt some trick, they got some guy's wallet, and pulled credit cards, and the "psychic" read off every number, in correct order.

He then read the ID number off of my school ID, and i was like 0.o
Idk man...
Thats a LITTLE freaky.
 
I think they talk a load of crap.

The ones who think they can talk to the dead make me laugh all the time. The mind readers I find cool, but I know they are fake because one mind reader tried their trick on me and well..........He messed up. BIG TIME!! I guess I was too clever for him! I think it's just a way of getting money from people. Who would pay a guy who could talk to the dead £50-£80 just to talk to their pet dog or a Jesus (lol xD) it's just plain stupid!

However I don't think all are fake, I think you can actually train your mind to do amazing stuff I mean hell we only use 10% of it and the rest we fill up with junk. I am sure once you train your mind well enough you could unlock amazing shit, and go ahead and call me crazy but that's my opinion, but I still don't think people could talk to the dead I mean come on that's just bullshit!
 
I saw something once and some english woman in america was talking to two other women and said to one, "I see an old man behind you, was your grandfather a farmer?" and the woman was like: "No..." and the other woman says: "OMFG, my grandfather was! This is so real!" and the psychic was all embarrassed and said "Yeah, my signals get muddled up and stuff" and she made an unconvincing giggle. That made me not believe at all. And there's another show with two psychics in a team and they never say the same thing, it's always one's idea then the other agrees.
 

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I laugh at most paranormal stuff anyways. That show on I think BBC America, Paranormal State. That guy gives "Holy Water" To "protect" people from "Evil Spirits." I can't get enough of that show. Also, Ghost Hunters on Scifi. Something always happens while they're off camera. Always.
 
Don't forget that when you go to those dead speakers show, you often have to fill out a form of who you were wanting to "contact".  The whole thing is represented in a sort of way that makes it feel they are simply surveying, so as to figure out audience or such.
Your seat number is there in the sheet as well, along with any memories you have.

Nice "psychic" was able to get the info read off from a piece of paper and mentally hear it on set - oh wait no, that would be the big ear piece he's wearing transmitting the info, my mistake.
 
Derren Brown
Derren Victor Brown (born 27 February 1971) is a British magician, psychological illusionist, mentalist, and skeptic of paranormal phenomena. He was born in Croydon, South London, and studied Law and German at the University of Bristol. While there, he attended a show by the hypnotist Martin S. Taylor, which inspired him to turn to illusion and hypnosis as a career. Around 1994, he worked as a conjuror, practising the traditional skills of close-up 'magic'. In 1996, he started performing stage hypnosis shows at the University of Bristol under his then stage name of Darren V. Brown.

Later, Brown became interested in mind-reading. Shortly after, he was commissioned to do a pilot for his Channel 4 television series, Mind Control. Aside from his main work, he is an artist who paints caricatures. Brown is also interested in taxidermy, as he states in episode 1 of his Mind Control series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derren_Brown
 

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I think illusionists are real, they can make something look like it's happening, but it isn't. Psychics are the idiots who think they can talk to the dead, and the people that claim something supernatural rolled a dead kid's baseball during commercial  ::).
 
I honestly believe that there are energies that we haven't discovered yet that our body has a way of using to a certain extent -- but as far as these people that claim to be psychics, they are probably phony
 
I think a real Psychic is:

A) a person who completely understand the human mind's nature, and then plays with your head...
B) someone who is overly convinced of it's own ideas so he appears so certain, ppl start to believe him
    and if you believe in something, it becomes more "real"
C) someone who does "know" more that the average ppl, but is totally misunderstood, some kind of harbinger
 
Even if it was real, the chances of you and someone close to you being in the same room are pretty slim.

It's like... my Nan went to a medium.

The conversation was like this:

M: I've got someone here, hold on... they're saying... Graham? Does that mean anything to you?
N: Yes, I had a son called Graham.
M: He says... he's very sorry for what happened.
N: Ah, he must mean moving away.
M: He's with somebody. Any idea who that could be?
N: Well, he was always very solitary.
M: Hmm. He says do you remember February?
N: Ah, that was his daughter's wedding!
M: Yes, he's saying how he remembers that dress, and that excellent cake.
..... and so on...

All well and good, except Graham isn't dead, as far as I know. :p

It's all about making connections, reading people, etc. The only way to find out for sure is not to give any clues away. If they say "I have someone here, called Muriel, does that mean anything to you?" ask for more information about this so called Muriel. If they say "Any idea who that might be?" say "You should know, you're talking to them."
 
I'd say at least 95% are fakers. If there are any real ones, I doubt they're the ones in crummy shops that charge money or one of those phone-line psychics.
 
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