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PS4 Announced ... Thoughts?

Hey ho wot's all this then? The PS4 was announced.

Things were said.

Here's some of them:

Abridged version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJDn0jRnUQ

Non-abridged (4 parts; it's long):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqpSuJr6vdk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249t-uMmaz8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsf-3So0vog http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWnwUJfBofg

Here's the new controller:
ps4pad.jpg


Here's a news article about it:
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/co ... res-937822

The Sony PS4 has been announced by Sony! At long last we've had our first look at the new console and so far it looks... next-geny.
With TechRadar in attendance at the event on the 20th Feb, Sony revealed some tantalising details about the hardware specs, along with some amazing software features that the new console will have.

But sadly, and almost unbelievably, we STILL don't know what the PlayStation 4 looks like. Sony has, however, revealed some fundamental details about the PS4 hardware, announced during the event and revealed in a post-conference spec sheet just what we'll see when the console launches during the holidays this year.

PS4: Hardware specs

AMD, as we guessed all along, is coursing through this new system's veins.
Post-event, Sony revealed the system runs on a single-chip custom processor and utilizes eight x86-64 AMD Jaguar CPU cores, with a next-gen AMD Radeon based graphics engine powering the way.

The "highly enhanced PC GPU" packs 18 GCN units - that may sound a like a lot of techy mumbo jumbo but what it essentially means is that the GPU packs 18 processing clusters, each packing up to 64 cores. That provides a lot of parallel processing power, and will thus handle the majority of the PS4's grunt work. It hits 1.84 TFLOPS of processing mojo.
Sony announced at the NYC event that the console will use GPU compute features to take advantage of this components raw power - it'll be used for general computation tasks as well as building graphics.

Memory

The PS4 will ship packing 8GB of GDDR5 memory. That's some super-fast stuff right there and should enable lightning fast performance.
Indeed, Sony has revealed that you will be able to power down the PS4 mid-game and then switch it on again in seconds and pick up right where you left off. That's the sort of loading power that this memory enables.

Other specs

We're also looking at Blu-ray disk support plus good ol' DVD, plus HDMI output support as well as Analog-AV out and an optical digital output.

PlayStation 4 Eye

What's really grabbing though is the development of the PlayStation 4 Eye, a newly developed camera system that utilizes two high-sensitivity camera equipped with wide-angle lenses and 85-degree diagonal angle views.
Sony said the cameras (amounting to 1280 x 800 pixels) can cut out the image of a player from the background or differentiate between players in the background and foreground, enhancing game play handily. There's also mention of logging in using facial recognition and using voice and body movements to play games "more intuitively."
If you want to know how these specs stack up against what we know so far about the Xbox 720 (clue: PS4 is more powerful) - check out our comparison of PS4 and Xbox 720 specs.

Will the PS4 be 4K capable?

In a chat with Kotaku, Sony has revealed that the PlayStation 4 will be able to playback 4K/Ultra HD video. However, it will not upscale to 4K or play games at 4K resolution.
Backwards compatibility

The PS4 will definitely not offer native support for PS3 games. However, there will at some point be a service on the Sony Entertainment Network that offers server-side emulation and streaming of games from PS One classics right through to PS3 Platinum Editions.


PS4 controller: DualShock 4

The PS4 controller comes in the form of the DualShock 4 pad. Very much a classic design, the DualShock 4 nevertheless offers upgraded vibrations, enhanced motion sensors and a Vita-like touchpad on the front.

PS4 release date

The PS4 release date is "Holiday 2013". That's the only detail Sony revealed at the launch and it's unclear which territories it applies to. Certainly the U.S., almost certainly Japan. We have a feeling the U.K. and Europe may have to wait a little longer, maybe even until early 2014.
This is pretty much what happened with Sony's previous consoles - the PS3 came out in the EU in March - and is backed up by various leaks and rumours. At least you'll have plenty of time to save up if you live outside of Japan or the USA.

PlayStation Move

Sony has confirmed that PlayStation Move will play a big part in the PS4 ecosystem. However, it has not yet been revealed whether the PS4 will launch alongside a new PS Eye camera and new Move controllers or whether the peripherals are staying the same with all the enhancements made console-side.

Synergy with PlayStation Vita

Sony has revealed that the PS4 will launch with the ability to stream games directly to your PS Vita. In exactly the same way as the Wii U allows you to switch off your TV and continue playing on the tablet controller, the PS4 will wirelessly send your games to the Vita.
There will be similar synergy between "all Sony devices" which means Xperia handsets and tablets, Bravia TVs and BD players.
Sony hinted that there will be more announcements in this area, too. We think the obvious next reveal in this area is the ability to play PS4 games on your Vita from any location using a wireless connection.

PS4 Instant On

The PS4 will be one nippy device if Sony is to be believed. It will have an instant on/off feature allowing your to shut down during a game and then boot up from scratch in seconds and resume where you left off. The days of waiting 60 seconds as your console loads up are about to end.

PS4 price: how much will it cost?

No pricing details were revealed at the event, so all we've got to go on are various rumours from before the launch - but it might be that Sony has a price point of around $400 in mind for the US release. That translates to around £255 so you could extrapolate that to around £299.
This is further backed up by a recent report in The Times which states that Sony is aiming for a price of under £300 in the U.K. Many people think it'll be more than that though - we'll just have to wait and see.

Second-hand games on the way out?

Sony has yet to discuss this area of the PS4, but you'd think it would dispel the rumours if they're not true.
The rumours suggest that Sony is going in the same direction as Microsoft in that it wants to kill off the second-hand games market. Current industry wisdom suggests that future PS4 games might be tied to your Sony Entertainment Network account and will thus have no resale value. That's a similar approach as used by PC developers using Steam so we reckon this is a likely development. Doesn't mean we're happy about it, though.

Summary:

  • Should be coming out 2013 Q4

  • Should cost around $400 (probably?)

  • Used games allowed? Probably not. Always-on internet connection req'd? Probably so.

  • Backwards compatible? NOOOOPE. But don't worry!!! You can re-buy all of your old games you already own on the Sony Marketplace and emulate them!! Just pay 'em all over again! It'll be just like old times.

  • Holy shit they want you to buy a Vita so bad c'mon man please just buy it please

  • Games scheduled to release with it? A bunch of sequels to popular franchises and some shit I've never heard of too but they didn't really expound beyond movie clips of it

  • Button on controller for social networking for some fucking reason!!! YEAH AWESOME I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO HITTING THAT BY MISTAKE AND TELLING EVERYONE ON FACEBOOK WHAT A GIGANTIC DOUCHE I AM WHILE PLAYING SUPER MONKEYBALL 3000



Anyway

What do you think?
 

Mega Flare

Awesome Bro

Im buying a PS4 day one already. Got like 600 bucks but a side. Pluz new killzone looks awesome! same with new infamous! and if my racing wheel works with drivers club? HOLY FUCK that be awesome.
 
Gaming PC in the living room with that x86 off-the-shelf CPU and AMD GPU.

I'm thinking steam on PS4 and easy software porting and debugging, generally it looks like a dream for developers.

And Sony look like they are trying to profit on hardware by keeping it simple and using PC guts, their engineers are doing an incredible job.

Just need to stop used game sales and reduce the API fees then the developers will flock to it without a second thought.

Edit: to clarify, your PS3 games will NOT work through emulation, the x86 chip makes this harder and the hardware isn't powerful enough to emulate the cell processors, PS2 and PS1 games are possible through emulation, though.

It is not backwards compatible due to the costs of adding the expensive cell CPU grid onto the board
 
I knew two people for its entire lifespan that owned a PSP. Both of them sold it not long after they bought it.

I don't know a single person who owns a Vita, online or otherwise.

Sony isn't very good at this handheld gaming thing, are they?
 
In the Abridged video. "Check it out kids, Social media!"
Was that a joke because kids don't use social media? I honestly don't know what kids do these days.
 

Fusty

Sponsor

Backwards compatible? NOOOOPE. But don't worry!!! You can re-buy all of your old games you already own on the Sony Marketplace and emulate them!! Just pay 'em all over again! It'll be just like old times.

That's pretty much the worst thing they could do.
Not that it matters to me since I've never owned a Playstation so I can't say I'm that interested in buying a PS4. I'll probably end up buying the new Xbox when it arrives.
Tbh, I've pretty much switched over to PC gaming.
 

Hybrida

☆ Biggest Ego ☆
Member

My Dell XPS 17 laptop > PS4... I have 16 GB ram, 4 gig GPU, Intel I7 2670QM 8 core processor at 2.20 Ghz (turbo boosted to 3.30Ghz)

I really see no need for a PS4. As a PC gamer I have all the graphics and power I need. Unless it's something extremely different, I wont be getting it. From what I've seen it's not much different from the PS3, and I already have one of those.
 
PC gaming is evolving at a rate that consoles can no longer trump the horse power, it's always been like that since the early 90s
 
The only reason I got a Ps3 was because I was such a final fantasy fanboy and wanted FFXIII. But then turned out it wasn't exclusive. I don't think any of my games are Ps3 exclusive. A teeny tiny piece of me wants to be loyal to the PS brand because I grew up with it. But I feel like I would have enjoyed the Wii or 360 more. But who knows, the grass always looks greener.
 
I'm with Futsy here too. The only reason I recently bought the PS3 is because of the exclusive games for it that I really want to play. So far, the PS4 line up only has one game that piques my interest and that's the Final Fantasy title.
 
dadvetsrer":1ibl3rv5 said:
I knew two people for its entire lifespan that owned a PSP. Both of them sold it not long after they bought it.

I don't know a single person who owns a Vita, online or otherwise.

Sony isn't very good at this handheld gaming thing, are they?
Star and I have three PSPs.

I loves my PSP. :3 So many fun games!

I feel like the only person who plays on the console and never on a computer (maybe because my computer is not a gaming PC at all, but still). I like playing on the TV and using a controller. Maybe I'm weird?
 
Strawberrii":ivmlz7yk said:
I feel like the only person who plays on the console and never on a computer (maybe because my computer is not a gaming PC at all, but still). I like playing on the TV and using a controller. Maybe I'm weird?
The odd ones out are PC gamers currently with a 33% market hold with AAA titles, where as PS3 and 360 have 66% between them, if you include facebook gamers than yeah you're in the minority, but in this industry you're certainly not.

Also, my PC has a cable into my living room TV and I have a 360 pad
 

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