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Predefined existence

I view existence as I view a row of dominos, nothing but catalysts and results. Everything you see has a reason of being. Whether such reasons are known or not, is irrelevant. Everything is a product of a complex equation with even more complex variables. We act based on our surrounding environment and certain occurrences are dictated by certain preceding events and actions. The word random, I believe is a false concept. When all variables are known, everything is indeed predictable.

Witness the following responses of support or rebuttal (reactions from an event I created). Should a response be lacking, this would indicate actions aimed at trying to disprove my theory of cause and effect, or simply because the topic was not discussion material. Whatever happens, there was a reason for it. Nothing arises out of nothing.

We’re merely living out a very complex process.
 
No citations, no examples. if this were an english report, you'd get an F.
Why do you believe what you believe? Even philosophy has grounding in reality, that's what seperates philosophy from fantasy. What you have is just fantasy.
Furthermore I find "fate" to be a copout for the apathetic of the planet, an excuse to sit on their ass and do nothing because "everything is predetermined and unchangeable". Its just kind of lame to me philosophically.
What you state only works on scales larger than anything we're capable of changing even in a million years. As for your life, on earth, that little spec in a universe of billion trillions of planets? You have full control over that, no dominoes.
 
Also, um, to what end? What exactly transpires at the end of the domino roll? Evolution is reactionary, there is no destination predermined. I mean, if it were, what would be the goal? Creating creatures for the sake of them finding out why they were created? The reason they're created is to find out why they're created? So we're destined to kill time for some bored diety? Looking at the world, I see cycles and reactions. I dont see beginnings and ends, just transfers of energy. I have to believe, since it works on every scale we know of, now, it must work on the largest of scales. The problem with your theory is it requires a beginning and an end, and an intent and a destination. Why does there need to be one? Why cant the universe just be a series of cycles and reactions that expand and contract forever? Because that voids purpose in life? So what? You have reactions that feel good and reactions that feel bad, you spend life striving for the ladder. it doesnt need to be any more complicated than that. You have full control, putting your life in the control of a large scheme domino effect leading to a destinct destination is a bit fo a copout, an excuse for not getting a life.
 

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Logically it does! The positive existential proclamation bears the burden of proof; this is why a prosecutor must prove a crime was committed and then who committed the crime in question. The logical default for the positive premise that a crime has been committed is not "yes" or "maybe", but "no". If I, for example, were to claim that I had an invisible dragon locked in a permanent flight cycle between my house and China, the logical default for that proposition, barring evidence, is "no".

I really have no qualms with personal beliefs, but when people pervert logic to support the mistaken idea that their belief is logical when it in fact is not, I care. A little, but I care.
 
To say that existence is both random and predefined does not seem logical to me personally. It’s just too incompatible.

Life to me I see as something along the lines of this…

?, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, ?

By blurring out the first and last number, the beginning and the end, the process will still remain regardless. To not be aware of these two points, will have no bearing whatsoever on what should transpire between them. They will still be regardless. 3 will come after 2, and 4 will come after 3.

‘Interactions’ will always have a beginning and end. To however find the truths to both points is beyond my limited reach of comprehension. But what I can tell you is that we’re venturing down a path full of coincidences that ultimately will lead down to something. Just look back into your past. It led to what you are now.

To live through those past moments, as they were, once again, can anyone honestly say that the outcome could have been different?

If I have offended any through my challenges of the ‘why’, I apologise. I am not bringing up this thread with the agenda to find only ‘meaningless’ in our existence. I’m just making simple comments.
 
You havent blown anyone's mind I fear. Let me key you in. The number after 9 and before 1 is the same number, an identical cycle that supercedes the previous. Its different but the same. Get it? Like 1 and 11, 11 and 21. Only there was never a time where a definitive 0 existed which nothing preceded, something always preceded it and will always succeed it, forever. And the predicessors were the same on a cosmic scale but very possibly completely different on an earthly scale. Maybe 20 billion years from now another me will having the same conversation, or maybe nothing even remotely like earth would of formed. Either way is irrelevent on the cosmic scale, and impossible to determine on the earthly scale and it always will be impossible to determine. That's why its better it just live life.
 
“A reaction process with no definable beginning or end, yet a process regardless.â€ÂÂ
 
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

Sorry, that was just a cool quote from an epsiode of The Boondocks.
 

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