Parents abuse kid until he dies

[Byron]

I feel horrible even writing this topic but...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-co ... e-23224826

A woman and her partner abused this 4 year old kid, horribly. He lived in a tiny room, was often starved and was also beaten.
The parents told the school that he had a rare eating disorder and asked them not to feed him.
When the boy died, he weighed "little over a stone, the weight of an 18 month old baby"
They removed the door handle and often locked him in his tiny room that only had a small mattress inside. He was not let out of the room, even for the toilet. Thus he was expected to do it in the room.
He was also held under water until he passed out and was force fed salt.

I just don't get what reason you would have for doing this. I mean, they must be fucking insane. I really do want to destroy people like these.

What do y'all think about this?

 

[Jason]

...Force fed salt?

 

[Jason]

But yeah, I read this in the paper yesterday, personally I think it's fucking disgusting that people like this are even allowed kids... and believe that karma should apply all around, by that I mean they should be treated in the same way as punishment, fuck going to prison, just torture them... "until death do us part", heh.

It's also bullshit that we don't have a death sentence here in the UK, we're WAY too soft when it comes to punishment, I mean, even a life sentence is only 15 years, how the fuck does that work? Isn't life, well, life? Although I did hear on the radio the other day, that a guy in his fifties has been locked up for 45 years, I suppose that's just as good since technically it IS life, unless he lives until he's 95+, but in prison I doubt it...

 

[Spoo]

I'm pretty sure the judicial systems in a lot of first-world countries are bullshit.

These people are probably mentally unstable to the point of no help. If they're not, they deserve to die. I try not to seriously say that often, but anyone who would deliberately treat a child like this should die and suffer in whatever hell they believe in.

 

[So fist]

The Elementary Principal, the guidance department, and the teacher of that kid's classroom should be encouraged to seek new careers. Not reporting the grossly obvious signs of abuse to whatever the Brit's version of Child Protective Services is negligently lazy at best and grossly incompetent at worst. The family should have been on the social worker's radar the minute his teacher's noticed the weight loss and bruising, and when the mom made up that bogus eating disorder with the don't feed him request the principal should have nodded and called the cops when mommy left the room. That is silliness of the highest order. Your son has an eating disorder and you don't want us to feed him... ok miss can you provide us with a doctor's note or a way to contact who gave you this insane diagnosis? Seriously, we're just going to take her word that the best thing to do to help a child dramatically losing weight is to not feed him. Meanwhile mom's sending him to school each day without a lunch of his own and still they collectively suspected nothing. Madness. The school administration and allied health services is either staffed with fucking either the laziest jaded careless fucks on the planet or they are a collection of the most idiotic and gullible simpletons to ever be put in charge of anything. Either way they shouldn't be in charge of educating children.

Yeah the parents need to do life or be fried, but seriously based on the story this was a preventable death. The amount of time that elapsed before the parents finally offed him and the amount of abuse that was visible to public view should have ended with the child taken from these parents months before it happened. Its good that an inquiry is being done within the Health and Human services department because somewhere in that chain of prevention someone dropped the ball really badly. My bet is the principal and the school nurse decided to Mom's cock and bull story rather than do the extra work and refer them to Social services and the police for investigation.

 

[Venetia]

^ I agree. And god damn it ... how in the fuck could anyone do that to a little fucking kid. he was a cute little kid, too. fucking maniac pieces of shit.

i can verify that child services does fuck-all though. after they were called because of evidence of abuse on me, they did the following:

1. brief interview with me, where i was too nervous to say much (should have been a red flag);
2. called the house once, no one picked up, message was left.
3. end. no further contact.

i can only assume shit's similar in britain. i can't blame the case workers really; they're bogged down with so many cases it's impossible to keep up. i CAN blame the lack of funding, and i CAN blame the teachers for not really asking some serious fucking questions about what was really going on there, if they saw him deteriorating like that.


if those fuckheads (the parents) didn't want him so badly, why didn't they give him to one of the many many thousands of couples looking to adopt but who can't afford the expensive adoption process? god damn it fucking .... aaauururhghoangkrrf

 

[Venetia]

thanks for the RAGE :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:

 

[Ellie]

Actually I think our child services are really quick to respond and good in what they do with it in comparison to other countries (can't comment on America), that this doesn't happen more often is a sign of that, it's rare these cases crop up just when they do we get another Baby P scenario. Something's clearly gone wrong in this case but I don't think it's representative of our whole system which is pretty geared towards kids (I have foster carers in my family and friends involved with this kind of problem etc).

 

[Jason]

^ I agree. And god damn it ... how in the fuck could anyone do that to a little fucking kid. he was a cute little kid, too. fucking maniac pieces of shit.

i can verify that child services does fuck-all though. after they were called because of evidence of abuse on me, they did the following:

1. brief interview with me, where i was too nervous to say much (should have been a red flag);
2. called the house once, no one picked up, message was left.
3. end. no further contact.

i can only assume shit's similar in britain. i can't blame the case workers really; they're bogged down with so many cases it's impossible to keep up. i CAN blame the lack of funding, and i CAN blame the teachers for not really asking some serious fucking questions about what was really going on there, if they saw him deteriorating like that.


if those fuckheads (the parents) didn't want him so badly, why didn't they give him to one of the many many thousands of couples looking to adopt but who can't afford the expensive adoption process? god damn it fucking .... aaauururhghoangkrrf

Wait, what?

 

[Glitchfinder]

Wait, what?

Typically, that would refer to bruising and such. In other words, it would refer to the kid consistently looking like someone beat them up, despite not getting into fights at school.

 

[Jason]

Wait, what?

Typically, that would refer to bruising and such. In other words, it would refer to the kid consistently looking like someone beat them up, despite not getting into fights at school.

Sometimes I don't get you Glitch :huh:

I was asking the question since she said she was abused...

 

[Venetia]

Wait, what?

yeah, i've mentioned it before on the forum (multiple times).

Spoiler: depressing story, dont read

i was abused, a lot (by my mom). like bad conditions, no food (not denied it but guilted about eating and fridge usually empty), being hit with things like books/vacuums/etc, strangulation/head slamming, etc. no one noticed until the bruises on my neck. so i just learned to cover it up and went on with shit until i was was pretty much forced to leave home and strike out on my own as a late teen.

one of my teachers was really cool and she would bring me food because she knew i was hungry (she knew i was poor) but didn't know the extent of everything else. my dad didn't know the extent, either. i was good at concealing it (and she was too). self esteem issues and naivete kept me from seeking help. also my mom's reason was encephalopathy and what i think was untreated schizophrenia. so i also felt guilty about "ratting her out" on account of being just mentally unwell. it's also why i never really defended myself. i was always terrified that if i'd even push her away, she'd shatter like glass or something (she wasn't frail; in fact, she was 5'10", ex-army, and quite strong. i just was always so worried about hurting anyone.)

but anyway the teacher saw the shit on my neck and assumed it was my boyfriend. i had to tell her who actually did it to protect him from being accused.

then child services etc.

i actually told my teacher the rep was still working with us, even though she wasn't. i was scared of being put into a "halfway house" for displaced teens (they were like an alternative to foster care; idr the actual name), which was outside the school district, which meant i'd lose my only safety net: my friends.

at the time i was happy the child services rep had put in so little effort, but nowadays, i am concerned by just how little effort was paid.

tl;dr: i had a shitty time growing up

 

[Jason]

Wow, guess it sucked to be you... do you still keep in contact with your mam?

 

[Venetia]

no.

 

[Glitchfinder]

Wait, what?

Typically, that would refer to bruising and such. In other words, it would refer to the kid consistently looking like someone beat them up, despite not getting into fights at school.

Sometimes I don't get you Glitch :huh:

I was asking the question since she said she was abused...

I'm kind of curious how you missed that, considering how often I've seen her mention that and considering the fact that I'm reasonably certain I've seen you reply to some of them.

 

[Venetia]

i imagine jb tl;dr's like 90% of everything

i cant really blame him; life's too short to read everything

 

[moog]

i got the shit beat out of me growing up but i actually deserved it.

also chiming it with everyone else, what fucking douchebags.

 

[Venetia]

yeah im not against corporal punishment tbh. there is a big, huge difference between punishing a kid and abusing them, and a major difference in the attitudes and mental well-being of said kids when they grow up.

obv never go overboard ever ever. but punishment is preventing damage from happening again, and abuse is just causing damage to happen.

with some kids, you just can't freaking get through to them with "hey stoppit". and the verbal shit can get into abuse too.

 

[Jason]

I drop kicked a thief once... Jason do good?

 

[Venetia]

yes you did good.