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Left and Right defined the 20th Century... What's next?

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After breaking in one of the forum posters here (he's in a downward spiral of losing credibility) and achieving a victory (over a person who speaks native english :s kinda' depressing really), I've decided to throw another question out for me to kind of play in. Title came from a magazine article btw.

But please don't take this too seriously, it's all just for fun. Anyway... I'm gonna try to make this sound like it's out of Metal Gear Solid because it's fun like that.



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From the Russian Revolutions in 1917 to the destruction of the Berlin Wall and dissolution of the Warsaw Pact union in 1989, the world has been a bilateral battleground for Warlords, Policymakers, Economists and Activists all alike.

The notions of each ideology so far-reaching... it defines where we stand in politics, morals and beliefs even until today.

However, I've come to be bothered by such distinctions... It's become inadequate as a method to identify my own beliefs to begin with. One can even ask... was it ever sufficient?

A historian named Fukuyama once wrote that the end of the Cold War not only heralded the end of an era... "but the end of history as such... the end point of mankind's ideological evolution and the universalization of Western liberal democracy as the final form of human government." The absolute end of Socialism... and the proliferation of Capitalism.

What is Right has won over what is Left.

I myself, find that hard to believe. From the fundamental level alone, one can take Hegel's definition for History - all of which coming from a thesis, antithesis and synthesis... Surely, even if one were to take Fukuyama's word, Western liberal democracy must still have an antithesis? ...As all things do.

What indeed then are the two most powerful, bilateral ideologies serving as each others' antitheses today? From East Asia and America to Christianity and Islam - Have we merely been thrown back into the age of Asian Imperialism or the Crusades?

Perhaps mankind merely wavers in cycles, never fully reaching its potential.

Perhaps I am one step closer to making Her Dream, a reality.

Perhaps there is hope for Outer Heaven just yet.

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LOL ok, last part was a joke. But yeah, is history gone? Of course not, but it's rather undefined nowadays. Any thoughts? This is just for fun, don't worry about not being too academic because it isn't a very "academic" question to begin with. (Well it could be, but nah, don't bother)
 
Christianity and Islam are not polar opposites. Not at all. For one they share the same God (The songs my parents sing will use Allah and God interchangeably). Jesus Christ is mentioned in both, although how important he is differs. There may be tension between the two, but I doubt that it's because they're so fundamentally different from each other.

I think a lot of tension is regarding culture. Especially in this day and age. But what is the culture of Christianity? What is the culture of Islam? You can't lump them together like that.

So to answer your question...no, Christianity and Islam are not THE Left or Right of today's society.
 
To the Western World, the Western World is anathema to itself. There must always be a driving force against, it's our natures to even invent one if there is not. We may be facing off, the Western World I mean (as a generalization) against someone - but that's not our anti-selves. People are trying to make it so, but it simply isn't.

Here in the states, there is a growing tense of the need to do something. I'm actually quite shocked we're not in the 60's again in some fashion. People are afraid. Not everyone, maybe not even 1 in 100, but it's growing. Afraid not of the "Islamic world", as our grandfathers may have feared the "Red Communism". No, we're fretting over ourselves.

We just forget that we've always been like this. We need a boot in the pants to remind us the 60's are over, the time for that revolution has ended - and it's not always a bad idea to start another one. As I believe Franklin said, We need a revolution every 20 years. (Okay, he said "bloody", but we don't need more blood shed.)

-truth be told, this might have been a waste as I'm not sure exactly what you meant to discuss?
 
The Cold War ended? Funny that- I still get called "commie" for insulting Capitalism. No surprise which nation has regions that breed these retards.
 

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Ouch! I'd hate to be them. Those idiots. Those dumb idiots... By the way, if you didn't know I'm being sarcastic! :D

And how did you find out about our breeding program for the mentally challenged?
 
The cold war ended.
Ignorance is immortal. I'm still called a cowboy and I've never even seen a 10 gallon hat. Crap. I'm there isn't a cowboy for states where I live.
 
I'm still called a cowboy and I've never even seen a 10 gallon hat. Crap. I'm there isn't a cowboy for states where I live.

Same here. You would not believe how many people think Oregon is the wild west (thank you, Oregon Trail). Yes, we have rodeos, but those are mostly excuses for rednecks to get drunk, and I think the oldest one was started in the '50s. Most people live in Portland or Eugene, which are nearly as liberal as San Fransisco, and the only time they've seen a real horse was when the mounted police were breaking up their protest. :D
 

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