I am for hire. [ Folio / Prices ]

[DJ]

I was thinking about this because i used RMXP for 6~7 years and i am pretty much aware of it,
and has skills based on it. So i decided to find out whether if i can make some cash from it or not,
So i posted my price sheets for my resources on local RM forum. But Game Development is not going
so well on this country and people don't really like spending their money for buying resources,
( Since they can't really get something from it either.. )
and people tells me to lower prices while i think it's cheap enough already.

So, I was thinking, how about here on HBgames? Would you stop to buy some?
Well, i want to promote my skills and train myself, But just making money as my motivation.
( Since i already made about $100 from selling some of my arts. )

Spoiler: Rules

1. I am not perfect, So if i can't do what you're asking then i'll say no.
Therefore, I will take payment after i make some progress.

2. You cannot distribute the resources you bought for any reason.
Only use it for your own project. Otherwise, You're responsible of all consequences.

3. You'll have to pay in 7 days after i request payment.
If you fail to pay without proper reason you'll lose your authority upon your
resource and you'll not be able to buy it again,
and following resource will be kept - to sold or destroyed later.

4. I am making stocks of resources, which can be bought at solid prices.
Buying from stock might be cheaper, and also you're getting resource fast.
( Stock is not ready, But it will be prepared and will be ready soon. )

5. Payment is done by Paypal.

So here are my prices for now :

2013 - 12 - 24 : Another Change in Prices.

Previous Works

Spoiler: 2014-02-10, Custom Menu & Custom Title screen.

I'll be paid with about $20 ( 25,000 KRW) in 14 hours.. Though, price was not pleasantly consulted.
( Considering the work hours, it should have been around $35 ~ $40. )

What i did is making Title screen and Ingame Menu from NOTHING.
Title screen has firework effects on the background, and has 3-slot load screen overlay
with menu to open developer's website.
In-Game Menu consists of Inventory, Save, and Exit since the game is
horror/drama, which won't need detailed stuff. Simplicity was the key.
In inventory items can be used in way it's originally in RMXP, except it doesn't
display the how many numbers of items party have. ( Since it was not necessary )
Save Screen is same 3-slot layout as it is in title load screen.
Each slot displays Saved Time, Playing time, and Last location.
End screen has only Yes / No for now, but it can be fixed.

Title Screen

Firework effect on action.

Load Screen which is displayed right over the title screen.

Menu Screen

Inventory Screen. Item number is not displayed since it is not necessary.

Save Screen, offers 3 slots.

End Game Screen. Yes / No selection.

Scripts
Minimum Price is $10
Price will differ by the complexity of the script and total work hours.
So more complex and work-demanding script is, the more price increases.
Work Hours : ~ 5 hrs is on Minimum Price, +1$ per extra hour.
Complexity : Easy ( x 1.0 ) / Normal ( x 1.2 ) / Hard ( x 1.5 )
Easy : Scripts that only requires basic level of understanding RGSS.
Normal : Scripts that requires skills on RGSS and RM overall system.
Hard : Scripts that requires advanced skills, and even accessing or modifying pre-existing modules and classes.

Spoiler: Sample 1 : Particle System

Particle System
285 Lines of Code
Particle system for RMXP but also could be fitted for other tools.
Particles Data is stored in hash, And called by ID which can be both string or integer.
Functions :
Built-In Particle Antilag system
Particles data is saved real-time - Particles does not disappear upon scene change, or even restart and load the game
Particles have these attributes : X/Y Gravity, X/Y Initial Speed, Life (Frames),
Fadein/Fadeout Time (Frames), X/Y Coordinate Variation, Blend Type, Opacity, Angle (Initial/Acceleration)
Zoom (Initial/Acceleration), Animated Particles (Number of Files, Frame Speed), Tone/Hue Adjustment

Spoiler: Sample 2 : Custom Title Screen

Custom Title Screen
1201 Lines of Code (Incomplete)
Custom Title script that was being made for my own project. It remained incomplete,
But it was far more than original title script.
Functions (That was functional) :
Player Profile Data Function
Save Files that saved in different folders - Following to player profile
Save Files that includes thumbnail, Which can be viewed in both load / save screen
Categorized and Animated Menus
Animated Title Background
Functions (That was incomplete) :
Access to collectibles / achievements saved in profile data
Game Configurations

Spoiler: Sample 3 : Light System

Light System
205 Lines of Code (+WF-BitmapEX, +Time System)
Static Light system, But could be turned into Dynamic Light System.
( But dynamic light with RGSS1 has a lot of performance down and is not recommended.
I tried my best to tweak the performance, But there's limits. )
Functions :
Static Light System that can be linked with Time
Tone alternation
Can be Static / Dynamic
Lights can be positioned both with event / hash

Map
Map's Width * Map's Height * (3 / 200) * Complexity $ - ex) 100 x 100 = 100 x 100 x (3 / 200) x 1 = 150 $
Complexity :
Easy ( 0.8 x ) : Simple maps, which is small in size or doesn't require much work.
Normal ( 1.0 x ) : Normal Skill requiring maps which has common size and design.
Hard ( 1.5 x ) : Big, Enormous and Advanced maps that could expect weeks of work.

Spoiler: Sample 1 : Great Woods Town (135 x 100)

Spoiler: Sample 2 : Forest Resort (40 x 40)

Spoiler: Sample 3 : Great Woods Forest (101 x 90)

Spoiler: Sample 4 : Rave Town (70 x 70)

Spoiler: Sample 5 : Cabin of Forest (20 x 20)

Spoiler: Sample 6 : Forest of Dimension (50 x 50)

Graphics
* Illustration

Spoiler: Art Sample

Spoiler: Art Sample, Furries

Face Graphics : 5 $ ( up to 2 expression, $0.5 per extra expression )
Bust : $ 10 ( up to 2 expression, $0.25 per extra expression )
Waist-Up : $ 25 ( up to 2 expression, $0.25 per extra expression )
Create a new character : Literally build character from nothing. Includes Full Body front, back, and bust
$ 25 ~ $ 100
Photoshop

Spoiler: UI/HUD Example

UI / HUD : $8 ( Covers up to 10 Files, $0.5 per extra graphics )

24 x 24 - 0.5 $ per icon
32 x 32 - 0.8 $ per icon
Other sizes - Consult me.

Contact Me Via :
zi0808@naver.com ( Main Mail, Skype Account )
rladydgus5260@gmail.com ( GMail, Google Hangout )

If you have any other good suggestions, I'm open ears.

 

[Jumping Jack Flash]

You're prices are rediculously cheap you're going to have your work cut out if you do this.

 

[DJ]

You're prices are rediculously cheap you're going to have your work cut out if you do this.

Oh, Really? I guess those people on Forum are greedy maybe. What price would you recommend?

 

[Byron]

If I had money I would pay these prices.
They are quite cheep actually! And if the other forum aren't willing, they are crazy!
Honestly! I actually might ask you for a script at some point

 

[DJ]

If I had money I would pay these prices.
They are quite cheep actually! And if the other forum aren't willing, they are crazy!
Honestly! I actually might ask you for a script at some point

Hmm.. would you still pay if i raise those prices a bit? At the first i was planing a bit higher prices,
Until i got quite *busted* at that forum and i lowered prices. So i think it's good to go back to my original prices..

* Originally i was offering scrips for $ 10 base price, and $1 per 100 more lines.

 

[Ellie]

Well, it's whatever you think is fair at the end of the day, but these prices are well below the industry standard, so if another forum are complaining, they don't really have a right to. Things are only worth what others will pay for them though regardless of what's standard.

 

[Erichermit]

Like everyone is saying, this all appears very reasonable. However, I was noticing that you're charging scripts by the line? I've always found lines to be a poor metric for estimating the complexity of code, depending on code quality as much as personal stylings. In fact, badly written code is often longer than well written code (as I'm sure you know.) Since both metrics are unknown to the buyer until after the script is finished, perhaps you should consider "honest hours spent coding" instead? Or simply spend some time making a unique estimate for each script?

 

[DJ]

Well, it's whatever you think is fair at the end of the day, but these prices are well below the industry standard, so if another forum are complaining, they don't really have a right to. Things are only worth what others will pay for them though regardless of what's standard.

Yup, that sounds more like it, and i'd like to make more money not less money heh.
And i'm kinda losing my mind to sell it in my country because :

63 % of folks think it's still expensive. I think, I'd just raise prices and sell it to the person who's willing to buy.

Like everyone is saying, this all appears very reasonable. However, I was noticing that you're charging scripts by the line? I've always found lines to be a poor metric for estimating the complexity of code, depending on code quality as much as personal stylings. In fact, badly written code is often longer than well written code (as I'm sure you know.) Since both metrics are unknown to the buyer until after the script is finished, perhaps you should consider "honest hours spent coding" instead? Or simply spend some time making a unique estimate for each script?

Oh, Yeah, I was pretty confused of what to do, But i think what you're saying is more legit. I'm changing it.

** Okay. Just made some updates to prices, and noticed i put wrong math on the Map Prices. ( Crazy prices O_o )
I forgot that we're talking about USD, not KRW. Fixed, anyway. ( 1 USD is about 1100 KRW )

 

[noise shaman]

You need more examples of your abilities, especially for painting. What you have so far isn't particularly impressive, and it's furry so it goes no indication of your ability with painting regular humans.

Basically imo you should have a larger, more varied portfolio.

 

[DJ]

You need more examples of your abilities, especially for painting. What you have so far isn't particularly impressive, and it's furry so it goes no indication of your ability with painting regular humans.

Basically imo you should have a larger, more varied portfolio.

I see.. Yeah, It's true. I think i can post some more of pictures that i have, I think i just forgot to do it. I'll be uploading them very soon.

 

[DJ]

Updated with bunch of Folios of my work and changed the post title.
I think this might look more appealing to you, especially i have good folios of script and maps.

 

[Erichermit]

It's good that you have included examples. For the scripts, I'd almost consider stating what you would have charged for them. Might give the user a bit of perspective.

For the maps, I think you have too many forests. (Or towns that are covered in trees.) Stick a cliff / cave / other map in there too so people know you can do more than just forests!

 

[DJ]

It's good that you have included examples. For the scripts, I'd almost consider stating what you would have charged for them. Might give the user a bit of perspective.

For the maps, I think you have too many forests. (Or towns that are covered in trees.) Stick a cliff / cave / other map in there too so people know you can do more than just forests!

Sure, i'm keeping my folios updated and there are more to post.
But i am on vacation now so i'm gonna do it slow, i think.

Also, i mostly make huge maps so there are quite lots of unfinished maps, So i may have to take some parts from them.

 

[DJ]

Bump, and update current person who was to hire me is just not responding.
+ Two more pics.

 

[Triforce]

I'm sorry but I've got to be honest, here. I really don't think that your artwork is high enough quality to merit being paid for it. Your mapping skills seem solid and I really can't comment on your scripting, but the I would honestly consider the artwork to be mediocre, and I would definitely not use it for a project.

I also have to say that I feel that anyone who cares enough about the success of a project is probably already a creative mind which cares enough about cultivating their creative abilities. This being said, I really doubt that someone who is working on a project which is for pure enjoyment and not for profit would even consider paying for work like this to be done.

I'm sorry but this whole model really just does not seem plausible.

 

[Erichermit]

To me I don't think the art style is too bad.

I'd definitely replace the furries with the most human ones at the front page, and use the furries as the lower down pictures. They can be a little off-putting, and people want to know you can draw in different styles.

The most recent one you posted, even though she has animal ears, should be on the front post instead of one of your other ones, for example.

 

[DJ]

I'm sorry but I've got to be honest, here. I really don't think that your artwork is high enough quality to merit being paid for it. Your mapping skills seem solid and I really can't comment on your scripting, but the I would honestly consider the artwork to be mediocre, and I would definitely not use it for a project.

I also have to say that I feel that anyone who cares enough about the success of a project is probably already a creative mind which cares enough about cultivating their creative abilities. This being said, I really doubt that someone who is working on a project which is for pure enjoyment and not for profit would even consider paying for work like this to be done.

I'm sorry but this whole model really just does not seem plausible.

For the art, then don't buy it. I've already sold few arts at that price rate, which means people who likes it buys anyway.
Yeah, i may charge a bit high but there are all reasons behind this. To put it short, It's what i think i deserve for hours and hours of work.
After i started selling my art for 9 months that's what i've decided, and i think it's right.
I know i have to study more arts and such, But i'm not changing the price, unfortunately.

I know what you're saying : I'm the one of that kind of person, Since you can see that from that i do Drawing,
Graphic designs and scripting. And yeah, I know that non-commercial project makes won't buy my stuff since they're not making
any profit, I know that better than anyone. Lots of years of work, but i got nothing, but i still go on.
The reason i am making myself for hire is because i want to use my skill in more meaningful things,
but is willing to take what i deserve by taking money, Since I saw lots of people who wants my works without any cost,
which sounds outrageous to me. Also, I will be quitting most of RM, and proceed onward to real things
like C++, DirectX, HTML5, Unity, Java and such. Which also means i don't just want to let the skills i achieved in RM to just
go away.

Sorry if i'm being a dick, But that's what i feel about this.

To me I don't think the art style is too bad.

I'd definitely replace the furries with the most human ones at the front page, and use the furries as the lower down pictures. They can be a little off-putting, and people want to know you can draw in different styles.

The most recent one you posted, even though she has animal ears, should be on the front post instead of one of your other ones, for example.

Well, Okay. Yeah, That's because i started the fandom recently and drew many related artworks.
But since i got more human arts from school project and such, I'll be updating the post with those new artworks,
which will definitely make people consider better.

+ Artworks replaced.

 

[DJ]

Just finished work of 1st successful contract.
I'll be paid with about $20 ( 25,000 KRW) in 14 hours.. Though, price was not pleasantly consulted.
( Considering the work hours, it should have been around $35 ~ $40. )

What i did is making Title screen and Ingame Menu from NOTHING.
Title screen has firework effects on the background, and has 3-slot load screen overlay
with menu to open developer's website.
In-Game Menu consists of Inventory, Save, and Exit since the game is
horror/drama, which won't need detailed stuff. Simplicity was the key.
In inventory items can be used in way it's originally in RMXP, except it doesn't
display the how many numbers of items party have. ( Since it was not necessary )
Save Screen is same 3-slot layout as it is in title load screen.
Each slot displays Saved Time, Playing time, and Last location.
End screen has only Yes / No for now, but it can be fixed.

Spoiler: Title Screen

Firework effect on action.

Load Screen which is displayed right over the title screen.

Spoiler: Menu Screen

Inventory Screen. Item number is not displayed since it is not necessary.

Save Screen, offers 3 slots.

End Game Screen. Yes / No selection.

 

[DJ]

Okay, it's been a long time i haven't updated this post, But here are some news.

First last contract was fucked up. The contractor kept reasoning to me with full of bullshit and he did not actually
paid promised amount of pay in time, So i decided to bust the contract.

I got another contract but contractor soon stopped contacting me, which probably means they have changed
their mind or whatsoever. At this rate i'm thinking of not getting myself involved in other's business,
Since most of people aren't / can't be willing to pay for non-profitable project - Kinda obvious.

Anyway that's it for now. I don't even know there would be ever single person who would like
to get something from me properly :-|