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http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=4748":3n8cpplq said:
Intel’s Nehalem processor: Biggest leap since the Pentium Pro

At a press gathering this morning, Pat Gelsinger, senior vice president and general manager of Intel's Digital Enterprise Group, revealed details about a next generation processor, Nehalem, which brings an entirely new microarchitecture (and motherboards), and will include onboard memory and graphics controllers.

Nehalem-based desktop, server and mobile processors and systems are slated to be available in 2008. The Nehalem effort is part of Intel's strategy to step up its chip cadence.

"The new systems architecture is a major shift is system architecture, and a stunning value proposition," Gelsinger beamed. "It's the biggest leap since the Pentium Pro [which reached the market in 1996]." It's also a big shift for those who create memory and graphic controllers, such as AMD, which just acquired ATI.

"We will integrate the memory controller on the die, with both a buffered and native version," Gelsinger explained.  For many years, AMD's claim to fame has been its integrated memory controller, which helps to reduce latency. "We have the best memory hierarchy on planet today," Gelsinger said in response to a question about AMD's HyperTransport processor design approach. "The best cache is more important than an integrated memory controller, which is why Intel wins on benchmarks."

On a technical front, each core utilizes two threads and the chips are designed specifically for the 45-nanometer process, unlike the Penryn family due later this year that was a bridge between 65 and 45 nanometer. Nehalem designs are underway with eight cores, and two thread each, Gelsinger said, and the processors will exist in the same thermal envelope as previous generations.

For software developers, Gelsinger said, "Nehalem system server applications are very throughput-oriented already and will take full advantage of the simultaneous multithreading. On client systems, we have been on a multithreaded focus since 2000, when we launched hyperthreading. Now we are reaping the benefits and seeing good parallelism in games, media and even in things like Microsoft Office 2007, but it is still heavy lifting to move the software community together to take advantage of threading."

Gelsinger also outlined the Penryn family of processors, due in the second half of this year, that are based on the 45-nanometer Hi-k process technology and high-k + metal gate transistor design. In plain English, the Penryn family, which will include six processors (dual and quad core Core and Xeon systems for server, desktop and mobile) means chips that are faster and more energy efficient.

The 45-nanometer processors will have 820 million transistors, and the dual core die size will be 25 percent smaller than the 65-nanometer equivalent.

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Right now, I have a Penryn processor, and I'm pretty darn happy with it, but I shit bricks when I found out the Nehalem can out-produce it on an UNOPTIMIZED motherboard by 40-50% :O

What the hell is AMD gonna do now??
 
That's what I was thinking. Before this, I was like, "Maybe they could pull off a big showstopper?" But I don't see how they could pull ahead now.
 
I don't want Intel having a monopoly over the powerful processors/boards though so hopefully AMD comes out with something. Otherwise we're gonna be paying $1k+ for top of the line processors for the next 2-4 years.
 
Prexus":6pt99o21 said:
I don't want Intel having a monopoly over the powerful processors/boards though so hopefully AMD comes out with something. Otherwise we're gonna be paying $1k+ for top of the line processors for the next 2-4 years.
Why would it have an affect though? I mean they'll have an EXCUSE to raise the prices but the monopoly will be microsoft-esque and calls would come to bring it down imo.
 

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"Bring it down" to what?  You think 500 dollars is a reasonable price for a home operating system from Microsoft?  The only possible way you can look at a monopoly in a positive light is if you imagine that they could hike prices even farther if they wanted to, then imagine that they didn't do so out of the kindness of their widdle hearts.

I sincerely hope AMD comes up with something soon, I do not want to see the PC marketplace being completely dominated by monopolies in every aspect; not in an age where the government is powerless to split them up.
 
Heh. Good thing I switched to Intel. Hopefully, Apple will give us the Nehalm in the future.

I do hope AMD doesn't die out- Competition is what makes technology improve, and I want my Intel processors to be better in the future.
 
Bloody bastards are killing AMD, at least this might motivate AMD to make an even better proccesor.
At least in terms of cost though, AMD produces alot cheaper proccessors. And with the aqusition of ATI;
ATI Radeon HD 3870 > nvidia Geforce 8800. So they at least have the Graphics Card market all fixed up.
 
Hon nVidia produced a new line of video cards too. And the highest tier one is still better than the best ATI. But a lot more expensive, so we'll see how it goes.
 
Do you mean the 9800? because you also have to take in consideration the fact that the 3870 has GDDR4 memory, and  workstation cards dont really count. And the clock speed of the 9800 is also, however higher than the 8800, is still lower than that of the 3870.
 

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NearSerendy, stop posting bullshit like this, please. GFs and ATI cards have a much different architecture. You CAN'T compare clock/memory speeds of these. Also, GDDR4 memory was so fuckin' good ATI (AMD) went back to GDDR3 (and in some models GDDR5) in the 4XXX series.

edit \/: sorry ;)
 

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