FF3 (NES) on DS

[Xilef]

Hopefully you all heard of Final Fantasy 3. It never got released outside Japan, but there are loads of fan translations, and this is the greatest NES game I ever played.
They're remaking it for the DS in full 3d! and it looks awesome!
Old on the Left, New on the Right
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It looks super cool!
Discuss!
(Oh yeah, and this isn't Final Fantasy 6, which was called FF3 outside Japan)

 

[Marcus]

Yea this is pretty old...

Still, am I the only one who thinks this game looks horrible? After seeing the preview video at gametrailers I saw how jerky and stiff the animation was and this just turned me off immediately. If you can't make good 3D, then just stick to 2D. I'll end up buying on principle but I can't say I'll really enjoy it from this early standpoint.

Contact is looking like a lot better RPG.

 

[munin]

I've been waiting for this for such a long time.

Funny how they've released Final Fantasy I and II remakes twice in English but never part three. I don't think the original FF deserves three translated versions of itself.

Anyway, I'm very excited to finally see this game get it's long deserved remake and bring-over.

 

[Jennestia]

Personally, all 3D FF games (PS1/PS1 remakes) had its stiffness in 3D animations, but its something that can be looked over. I haven't played III in soo long, so I'll probably play a FFIII remake, now all that's missing is a FFV remake that game was just soo much fun back in the day.

 

[Krylon]

They ruined my favorite Final Fantasy. After watching the new gameplay footage on IGN, I'm really really disappointed. Square-Enix has successfully maintained its reputation for not giving me a satisfying game since FF9. I've pretty much lost all hope in the company now. They only try to appease the new generation of gamers. They'll never learn that Final Fantasy does not begin with Final Fantasy 7, and that the point of Final Fantasy is not to make money.

 

[Grivenger]

They ruined my favorite Final Fantasy. After watching the new gameplay footage on IGN, I'm really really disappointed.

Because everything was old-school except the graphics?

They only try to appease the new generation of gamers.

That is why FFIII DS still features a lot of old-school elements that the new generation of gamers might find them to be annoying, right?

and that the point of Final Fantasy is not to make money.

Since when? The point of FFI was to make money and save Square. It was a success, so they made a completely different game, and renamed it as FFII for extra money. And so on. The FF series might be an excellent RPG series, the developers always tried each FF to be as good as possible, but one of it's points was always to make money. The same can be said for almost every single other game.

 

[Mega Flare]

The characters look to much like the ones in Crystal Cronicles witch i hate

 

[Celesinator]

Don't forget about the videos man!

SPOILERS I think...
Nah

This si the newest one-

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LlpllXbJL7I&search=final fantasy iii ds

 

[Mega Flare]

they should have just ehance the 2d graphics and put it on the GBA

 

[Giarc Maj]

they should have just ehance the 2d graphics and put it on the GBA

Yeah, but the Gameboy Advance is pretty much dead. Besides, Final Fantasy V, as well as VI are releasing on it this year, and they are one of the last few games to be on the handheld.

 

[Mega Flare]

I still need to Get Final Fantasy IV Adavace, its just when that came out so many other games i wanted came out

 

[Krylon]

Because everything was old-school except the graphics?

Wrong. You haven't played the original enough, apparently. They changed some key things about the game. They might change some things back, but it still won't match the original.

Now you start off with one character. Apparently this character has a name and an identity, as do all the characters in the game. In the original, you started off with four nearly identical onion kids, and as you advanced through the game, YOU decided their identity.

The music was poorly remade in my opinion. If you weren't aware, Square-Enix has gotten soft with their music on the handhelds. All the remakes have been relatively revamped with a completely different style and instrumental play that disappoints the original.

They also generally kept the maps the same, but also tried new things. Unfortunately, there are some things they shouldn't have kept so extremely, and other things that they might've been better off not changing or adding.

That is why FFIII DS still features a lot of old-school elements that the new generation of gamers might find them to be annoying, right?

The graphics were clearly apart of their whole new look for multiple new games that Square-Enix has made. Also, they also stuffed it with many different camera angles and turned many things into small cutscenes, which is also very similar to their recent games. They've also upped the damage and beginning attacks a bit, very similar to their newer games. In addition to forcing some kind of character story and seperation, I'd say that this is definately part of their new generation of games. They've only taken the BASE of the original and coated it with something completely different.

Since when? The point of FFI was to make money and save Square. It was a success, so they made a completely different game, and renamed it as FFII for extra money. And so on. The FF series might be an excellent RPG series, the developers always tried each FF to be as good as possible, but one of it's points was always to make money. The same can be said for almost every single other game.

It saved the company, but you think they didn't enjoy making it? Where are you? RMXP.org... Do we make a profit off of our games? No, not really. The original Final Fantasy games were something the developers enjoyed making. At this point, now they're mostly just cashing in on the past. Remaking all the games, extending into different genres, different platforms, and different forms of media. The company has lost its finesse.


Edit: Just so you don't take me the wrong way, I credit them for trying something different, but...if they're going to remake a game, they should do it right. They aren't being faithful. This is a disgrace to see the first overseas retail version of Final Fantasy III in the form of a greatly altered game.

 

[rexxzecutioner]

Yea this is pretty old...

Still, am I the only one who thinks this game looks horrible? After seeing the preview video at gametrailers I saw how jerky and stiff the animation was and this just turned me off immediately. If you can't make good 3D, then just stick to 2D. I'll end up buying on principle but I can't say I'll really enjoy it from this early standpoint.

Contact is looking like a lot better RPG.

Yes you're the only one, this game looks way better than that other one you posted.

 

[Marcus]

That is why FFIII DS still features a lot of old-school elements that the new generation of gamers might find them to be annoying, right?

Like what? I bet you it's just as easy as the Final Fantasy 1 remake. An entire team of fighters in that game are literally indestructible (you'll be lucky to take 3hp once you pass level 10) making the point of customizing a party totally useless.

 

[Xilef]

I like it how it looks like crystal chronicles, it kinda shows that enix isn't worried about a cartoony look to the game.
You guys should see the video trailor. The graphics look wobbly, but the action scenes are the coolest! There's a part when the party are running along a cliff of chocobos after an airship.
And the opening speaches are the same (Ya know, the one about "Where did that hole come from?" it's worth getting the fan translation, but even better getting this one.
I like this because people will get a taste of the NES old school gaming (Which my bro doesn't like) whilst playing a modern game. This should change the bad aura some people have against the NES.
I regret not getting FF4 advance, but I can't wait for FF6 on the GBA!!

 

[Mega Flare]

Like what? I bet you it's just as easy as the Final Fantasy 1 remake. An entire team of fighters in that game are literally indestructible (you'll be lucky to take 3hp once you pass level 10) making the point of customizing a party totally useless.

Some will be taking more damage then oters because there armor costs a shit load so you will not beable to afford all of the best armor right away.

 

[Celesinator]

For the people who don't like the music >_> ftp://myserve.homeftp.net:8099/gaming/finafantasyiii_0001.wmv

 

[Grivenger]

Wrong. You haven't played the original enough, apparently.

I have played the original till the final boss.

Now you start off with one character. Apparently this character has a name and an identity, as do all the characters in the game. In the original, you started off with four nearly identical onion kid.

Yes, they gave to the characters personalities this time. But honestly, is that really such a key element? More like a minor and much needed storyline improvement.

and as you advanced through the game, YOU decided their identity

No, you decided their identity in the beginning. Through the game, they were not characters, they were walking walls.

They also generally kept the maps the same, but also tried new things. Unfortunately, there are some things they shouldn't have kept so extremely, and other things that they might've been better off not changing or adding.

Give me examples.

The graphics were clearly apart of their whole new look for multiple new games that Square-Enix has made. Also, they also stuffed it with many different camera angles and turned many things into small cutscenes, which is also very similar to their recent games.

Yes, obviously, as hardware gets better, so do their games technically.

They've also upped the damage and beginning attacks a bit, very similar to their newer games.

Maybe because you only control one character?

They've only taken the BASE of the original and coated it with something completely different.

because the story of the original game was almost non-existent, I guess that means: They took the little story and added more stuff.

It saved the company, but you think they didn't enjoy making it?

Of course. Staff enjoying what they develop plays a key role during a game's development.

The original Final Fantasy games were something the developers enjoyed making. At this point, now they're mostly just cashing in on the past.

You are wrong. The developers have claimed multiple times that many of the changes in the latest products are because they are enjoying A LOT trying new stuff and challenging themselves with something that they are not used to, and it would be totally boring for them to throw the same formula over, and over, and over and over.

Remaking all the games, extending into different genres, different platforms, and different forms of media.

Yes, SE is trying to grow up as a company. All the companies, except the retarded ones that end up failing in the end, do that.

Edit: Just so you don't take me the wrong way, I credit them for trying something different, but...if they're going to remake a game, they should do it right. They aren't being faithful. This is a disgrace to see the first overseas retail version of Final Fantasy III in the form of a greatly altered game.

I completely disagree, and when I watched the trailers, the only thing I could think of was: "This FF, even with 3D graphics and some added stuff, it feels so old-school and traditional."

Like what? I bet you it's just as easy as the Final Fantasy 1 remake.

Unless the team behind FFIIIds is the same as the team behind FFI remake, then no one can say that yet.

An entire team of fighters in that game are literally indestructible (you'll be lucky to take 3hp once you pass level 10) making the point of customizing a party totally useless.

I have beaten the ORIGINAL FFI with three fighters and a red mage. They are indestructible, the original game is broken like hell, and it was very, very easy.

 

[Xilef]

It'll be great if some random company say: Hey! A NES remake in 3d! Let's copy! Ice Climbers: Danger Slope! Still catching those egg plants I see. Watch out for the seagull, it'll kill you.

 

[Krylon]

Yes, they gave to the characters personalities this time. But honestly, is that really such a key element? More like a minor and much needed storyline improvement.

They could've built on the supporting characters that were already in the game. I'm sorry but it IS a key element. The more and more they create some convoluted character that is practically already the basis of the game, the less I want to play it.

No, you decided their identity in the beginning. Through the game, they were not characters, they were walking walls.

I'm sorry but I gave my characters their own identities based on what I named them, what class I chose them to be, and what I had them do.

Give me examples.

I don't think they should've kept the rock, or at least not so similarly. As for the Crystal Room, it was nice to be different, but it was pretty much NOTHING like the original. I would've liked to see at least a small similarity. However, the effect they used to go into the boss battle with the Land Turtle is a messed up version of the original. They should've just done something different.

Yes, obviously, as hardware gets better, so do their games technically.

Just because the hardware allows it doesn't mean they should go for it. They've been taking a different art and cinematic direction in recent games. That's all I was pointing out.

Maybe because you only control one character?

Well obviously. I think that alone was a mistake, but already giving the character a spell? And for being a novice, I'm surprised one measly kid can do so much damage on a giant Land Turtle.

because the story of the original game was almost non-existent, I guess that means: They took the little story and added more stuff.

I wasn't just referring to the story, but everything in general. But in terms of the story, I don't like the fact that they just fabricated something on top of my characters. It takes away from the original experience, even if it's adding story.

You are wrong. The developers have claimed multiple times that many of the changes in the latest products are because they are enjoying A LOT trying new stuff and challenging themselves with something that they are not used to, and it would be totally boring for them to throw the same formula over, and over, and over and over.

Then make a new game. If you’re making a remake, REMAKE THE GAME. And keep in mind, very few developers of the original are working on the remake. It’s not like they’ve made Final Fantasy III before. It’s still something new for them. They don’t have to change everything to become uniform with all their new games.

Yes, SE is trying to grow up as a company. All the companies, except the retarded ones that end up failing in the end, do that.

I’m sorry to say but in my opinion, Square-Enix has failed doing that. They’ve forgotten who they were and have resorted to making second-rate games.

I completely disagree, and when I watched the trailers, the only thing I could think of was: "This FF, even with 3D graphics and some added stuff, it feels so old-school and traditional."

You’d probably say that for virtually any remake. Obviously if it’s a remake, it’s going to feel traditional, especially if you’ve enjoyed and/or completed the original. My statement still stands. This is a disgrace to see the first overseas retail version of Final Fantasy III in the form of a greatly altered game.


You can make another long reply to quote response, but I'm done. Obviously this is a matter of opinion and will never be solved. I'm entitled to my opinion and frankly, in my honest opinion: Final Fantasy III DS is a terrible remake of the original. I'll give it a try, but chances are, I'll be disappointed. Obviously, you can't remake a game exactly, otherwise it would just be the same game. However, they could've taken many other directions with the remake and still satisfied me. This was not one of them.