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Cognition and Attraction Towards Anime

“How can you possibly be attracted to a cartoon?” I have long since lost track of how many times I have had someone make such an oration towards me, and quite honestly, the ridicule has lost its effect. Whether or not it is “right” to be attracted to anime is hardly a concern. The question at hand is why it happens. Some guys like feet, some girls prefer shorter men. It is impossible, however, for anime to fall under the same tier of categorization because such preferences exist as sub-genres within anime, itself. The idea of being attracted to illustrations is something grander.

Is this conditioned, or is it human nature? Perhaps everybody shares the same sense of attraction, but those who continue to deny it have long since cognitively dismissed the thought of attraction towards an illustrated representation. After all, such a thing is not exactly accepted as “norm” in our society (there is a reason why that malodorous statement concerning “cartoons” continues to surface). Perhaps those who disagree with anime simply associate cartoons with juvenility. In other words, perhaps people are conditioned to become un-attracted to anime. Or perhaps yet, they might simply lack a certain imaginative capacity required to truly appreciate it.

Those who defend the idea of attraction towards anime often compare the feeling of looking at an anime character to that of looking at a celebrity on television. Neither is “real” per-se; they are both nothing but organized patterns of various colored pixels, or in the case of hand drawn art, lines and vectors (it should be noted, actually, that everything we perceive boils down to being nothing but organized patterns of light projected onto our retina). The argument in question does not quite hold, unfortunately, as these two things are indeed drastically different. Looking at a photograph of your significant other undeniably gives off a different feeling than looking at an anime representation of the same individual (though keep in mind, both are perfectly valid mediums to be considered attractive).

Where a photograph of a significant other is a precise representation of the person in question, an anime illustration would be an estimated representation. In other words, a better way to explain this would be with a metaphor. Have you ever read a book (or seen a movie, et cetera) where the plot was laid out in such a fashion that it’s many details and intricacies were left open for you to interpret and figure out? Such stories are often considered much more sophisticated and enjoyable than stories with the same details presented in an obvious fashion. Such a story would be equivalent to an anime illustration, whereas a less sophisticated story would be equivalent to a photograph.

I dare say that people who are not attracted to anime have poor imaginations. The entire concept behind anime is that the majority of detail is left open to the audience’s interpretation. Character illustrations are vague representations of real-life equivalents, and it’s the job of the audience to fill in the missing detail. With this in mind, there is no reason why anime characters should not only be attractive, but more attractive than real-life people. When an audience fills in the ‘blanks’ to an anime illustration, they subconsciously do so with nothing but attractive details; that is, the gaps are filled in such a way that what they perceive in their mind is an ideal real-world representation. This is not to say that anime characters are flawless; after all, beauty lies in the flaws of a human, and as such, these flaws are accounted for when the illustration is being processed by the imagination. In essence, the amount of attraction that one has towards anime is directly proportional to the strength and ability of his or her imagination.

Of course, this case strictly speaks in terms of visual appeal. There are many, many different factors of human nature that contribute to the attraction towards an individual. I’m not going to stop and deny that the same things can happen towards anime characters, however, that is an entirely different topic all together (since, after all, one could theoretically fall in love with a character from a book).

I have extremely artistically talented friends who deny having any sense of attraction towards anime characters. They are clearly not lacking any imaginative capacity required for agreeing with such a thing, so the reason for their preference must lie in either cognitive associations or societal conditioning. Since the effect of conditioning removed this sense of attraction, it is needless to say that those who are not attracted to anime are indeed the weird ones. Or perhaps they just didn’t watch Sailor Moon when they were younger.

Edit: Minor grammar.
 

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What exactly do you have to figure out about a Japanese Illustration(one still frame) that you don't have to figure out for a regular photo(one still frame)?
 
Tommy the Cat":31j7d2bx said:
What exactly do you have to figure out about a Japanese Illustration(one still frame) that you don't have to figure out for a regular photo(one still frame)?

An illustration of an anime character is essentially a (very) simplified version of a real-life human being. When we look at such an illustration, we use out imagination to fill in the 'blanks' (or rather, lack of detail) so that what we are sub-consciously perceiving with our mind is actually a real person.

Or at least, this is what I'm suggesting.
 
No. Every single person who isn't 'attracted' to anime is either un-imaginative, or is just rejecting it because they perceive it to be childish? I'm not buying it.

I love cartoons. I have the Venture Bros season 1 & 2 on DVD. I never miss the Boondocks. I've seen every Billy and Mandy. I pretty much know every word to every Cow and Chicken. It's not the 'i reject it because it's supposed to be childish' thing... So you're saying I have a poor imagination. Er... fair enough? I mean, that's not a rash conclusion to come up with based on if someone is attracted to a character which would be male or female, depending on how the hair was drawn, and if the eyelashes are visible.

Sure an anime character can be cute.. but so is the monkey in dora the explorer. And the whole thing with comparing an anime picture with a picture of a celebrity (or whatever, a person) is the oldest trick in the book for people defending anime the way you are. Yeah, they're both made of pixels. The actual difference is that the person actually exists somewhere in the world. You're being attracted to a human being.

"The entire concept behind anime is that the majority of detail is left open to the audience’s interpretation"
The entire paragraph following this sentence is nothing but nonsense. "Well if you think about it.. when you use your imagination, they're actually really attractive". .... are you fucking kidding? I can do the same thing with my ugly girlfriend, if I wanted to. Sure, if you're living in fiary-land, you can make everything pretty and wonderful.

Physical attraction is NATURAL. You see a person across the room at a party, you're attracted to him/her. You walk into your new school, you can immediately notice the people in your class that you find to be attractive. You're at the store, and when you're checking out, you notice that the boy/girl at the register is attractive. You don't sit and say "HMmmm.. well, she/he's attractive if I delusion (probably not a verb, but I don't care) myself into thinking she/he is! Everyone who thinks he'she's ugly has no imagination!!"

But apparently I'm fooling myself, or I have no imagination if I like

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BTW, comparing anime to a foot fetish is basically saying you NEED anime to 'get off', in which case you're the biggest weaboo I've ever dealt with.
 
It's easy to be attracted to things that're drawn ............. Well.

Whether it's a photo or an illustration or a photo so photoshopped it may as well be an illustration, the fact of the matter is, they're all 2D images. As long as the boobies and whatever other body parts are in the right places, and as long as the perception of something naughty is going on, it should be able to turn someone on.

Believe it or not, a lot of photo porn is fake. The men behind the camera and photoshoppers are masters of lighting, direction, and perception. Unless you actually see a closeup of the sausage going into the tunnel, you're probably not seeing what you think you're seeing.

Same with hentai or naughty anime, as long as it's drawn well. The pic you posted there, Cruelty ... Not really great. She looks like a little kid praying. And if someone's attracted to that ... They got problems o_o
 
I understand your points, Cruelty, and I agree with them many of them. However, I don't feel as though your arguments are disproving what I was trying to say (and that was probably my fault for being a tad vague).

When I was making the comparison between anime and celebrities on television, I was saying the argument is invalid.

Looking at Dora the Explorer (or an ugly girlfriend) and using your imagination to make her attractive is not quite the same as using your imagination to make anime attractive. The former requires intense conscious thought (and even then... ugh). A better way to have worded this would have been to say that anime, rather than being an estimation, is an average. You fill in the blanks without modifying what is already there. If the anime is poorly drawn, there's nothing you can do about it. It's the same with a well told story. If there are no details to piece together, then there's nothing you can do to enjoy it.

On a side note, this also explains why drawing anime is so difficult. Sure, if it's all an estimation, then it should be pretty easy to bullshit your way through a well drawn picture, right? Unfortunately, the anime has to be a perfect average (or simplified representation) of the real-life equivalent it is trying to imitate.

According to my theory, it is impossible to find anime illustrations attractive and not human beings (because anime is being subconsciously translated into real-life equivalence). Also, I explicitly said that attraction to anime cannot be compared to such a thing as a foot fetish.
 
Fetishes aren't necessarily sexual dependencies. A fetish is any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation. It doesn't mean you can't get off without it, it just means that it's something that turns you on, which isn't a real-live milk jug, snatch, or manmeat. So yeah, h-anime attractions are in the same category as foot fetishes because it triggers an erotic response for something other than a live naughty part.

But Retlaf, I think drawing anime is fairly easy. The lines are clean and simple and the styles are predictable. Drawing American-style comics are a lot harder because they require 100% more detail. I also find them sexier. Using the term 'anime' is too fuzzy; are you sure you're not just speaking of illustrated images in general?

I think what it all is, being attracted to images of human-shaped characters, is really no more than an affinity for style with the added benefit of seduction by seeing something in perfect proportion, without flaws which can draw away the eye.
 
sorry about the misunderstandings, I have a big problem with actually comprehending things that I read sometimes.. whether it be simple, or not. :\

I really don't know what other way to say it, but it's not impossible to not find an anime character 'attractive'.

I think, honestly, you'd have to be waaay into the stuff to start thinking of the characters as actual people. Quite frankly, I can't stand anime. I don't like the 'style'. When i look at an anime character, I don't see a person. I just see a generic, overused template for the basic shape of a human being.

btw the picture i posted was the first thing that came up in photobucket, vinetia. It would severely stunt my pride to sift through anime drawings for any longer than i have to.


edit-yeah, for the record, drawing anime is super fucking easy.
 
Venetia":1lx6lagb said:
Using the term 'anime' is too fuzzy; are you sure you're not just speaking of illustrated images in general?

No, you're completely right. I (wrongly) stuck to the term 'anime' because this seems to be the most popular style of illustration that people potentially find attractive.

In terms of anime being easy to draw, heh, maybe I'm just not artistically talented (avatar ;_;). I can most certainly see anime being easy to draw relative to the other styles, but I don't think anyone can just pick up a pencil and start drawing an attractive anime illustration without tons of practice. I would consider myself more of a musician...

A little off topic, but I prefer anime to other styles of art because of the portrayed range of emotion on the characters. A little less realistic, but I think it's worth it. *shrug*
 
The portrayed range of emotions, as you mentioned before, isn't that impressive. Actually, most Japanese animation exaggerates emotions. That's what (in my opinion) makes it so attractive.

Actually, a simple cube doing a walk cycle could easily express an emotion, if the animation is correctly done of course.

Now, feeling an attraction towards animation? Ugh, seems to me that's mostly some sort of psychological dysfunction.
But then again, that's merely my opinion :)
 
Eh. My Dad's confessed to me that he found Wonder Woman very attractive when he was a lad, so I suppose this isn't too much of a stretch. Hell, Wonder Woman's pretty hot even now, and artists are paid fat sums of cash to make sure it stays that way. That alone makes me wonder if the attraction to drawn media (no matter how minute) is more than a dalliance of the mentally disturbed. Hell, google 'tijuana bibles' for some NWS research on the history of cartoon porn.

Thoughtful posting aside: Weird shit turns people on. This fact alone no longer surprises me, in a world populated by furries, feeders, and at least one man who's proud to have ejaculated into a shoe. Some people find simplified representations of the human body arousing. La dee da.
 
rexxzecutioner":24zqrvm5 said:
Sexual attraction to a cartoon is an abhorrent. Leave that to the Japanese.

And that was an abhorrent thing to say. Out of curiosity, did you read the OP? If so, please expand.
 

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