Angels and Demons

[Chalupa]

I'm a HUGE fan of Dan Brown, better known as "The Dude Who Wrote the Da Vinci Code". Despite what's said, Angels and Demons is NOT a sequel to the Da Vinci Code. Angels and Demons came first, and has nothing to do with The Da Vinci Code except for the main character, Robert Langdon.

Before I say anything, if you've read the book, prepare to be hugely disappointed. I know what your thinking by now, "The Book is NEVER as good as the movie!! It HAS to leave out some parts for it to fit!!!". Well, I understand that, but when it COMPLETELY fucks up the plot of the book, then that's the final cutback.

In the book, a scientific organization called CERN calls Robert Langdon in to investigate a scientist that was murdered because he has the word ILLUMINATE branded in his chest. In the movie, the Vatican comes in, and asks him.

Spoiler

Closer to the end, the Camerlengo is branded with a brand that says FIRE WATER EARTH AIR.It sets it up to look like the director of CERN did it.The director of CERN is killed, and just as he dies he gives Robert a video. In the movie, it's two upside-down keys. It makes it look like the chief of police did it, and he hands Robert a key.

This is the part that made me completely SICK. In the book, there was a scene where Robert jumps out of a helicopter, without a parachute. They completely cut this scene out of the movie, and it pissed me off because I was SOO excited to see it in the movie.

In the end, I give Angels and Demons a 6/10. It wasn't necessarily bad, just really, really disappointing.

 

[moog]

honestly it looked pretty terrible

 

[Anopob]

I haven't seen it yet, but damn, I was actually wanting to see the jump-off scene too

 

[mawk]

dan brown is quite honestly a terrible author. when I was way shorter than I am now I liked how he worked out his puzzles, but reading through them now, he doesn't so much work things out as he has Robert think in circles while he wanks off to various historical facts, either distorted or made-up, and eventually finds the off-ramp long after any reader above 15 has come to the intended conclusion.

his literary style is decent, yeah, but I can't help but begrudge the guy for how much he tries to seem like a historian or an intellectual when really he's mostly phoning it in. what he doesn't misinterpret, he blatantly makes up. if you like that style of book, you should check out Foccault's Pendulum and The Name of the Rose by whatsisname Eco. unlike dan, he is actually capable as a puzzlewriter -- in fact, Pendulum has even been referred to as "a thinking man's The Da Vinci Code."

honestly I was expecting a little more out of you than drooling praise for a pretentious bad author, but you're 15 years old and you throw the word "otaku" around like it means something better than "japan is the only thing that can ever give me a boner." I shouldn't have made Expectations at all, considering.

 

[mawk]

also I like how they're apparently throwing in the LHC out of nowhere just to scare people

 

[Ellie]

Er what, the books about the LHC it's hardly "thrown in"

Anyway.

It's a fantastic book, regardless of all the bandwagoners who've never even read a Dan Brown novel who are all too quick to shit over him. (Not directed at you Mawk since at least you've read the books first). I thought all four books were amazing, Deception Point (about aliens) and Digital Fortress (about computers) especially. I'd prefer if he kept away from religion, mainly because the religious aspect of The DaVinci Code made it immensely popular (and therefore unpopular); but otherwise it was a good read in my opinion.

I don't know about the film itself. If it is anything like the book it will be amazing, though they ruined TDC last time, it just wasn't the same as the book for some reason.

 

[Venetia]

idgi why people think dan brown is a good writer
his writing is blatent and simplified for the masses. it uses jargon and euphemisms and descriptors which are entirely unnecessary (yes i am often guilty of the same but which of us is publishing this drivel). the plots are revolving and entirely dependant upon the actions transpiring instead of focusing upon character development at all (which is impressive since we spend most of our time with only one or two characters, yet somehow they are never fleshed out or made more interesting than simply "some guy" you see who makes idle chit-chat in a check-out line at the grocery store).

he is NOT a good writer. he has a little talent, though, for making things easily palatable for long bus rides. he splits everything in nice, short, easy-to swallow chapters, and provides cliffhangers aplenty to keep it fresh for the next time you need to board the plane and thumb to your last earmark. but if anything that makes him more of a decent television screenplay writer for a major network, or maybe even just a colorful/musical mobile hanging over your kid's crib--just because something grabs your attention it doesn't mean it's WELL DONE or THOUGHT OUT.

anyway i read A&D and TDC and neither were terribly interesting outside of a few stints which made me go browse google for "wh did ___ really happen?" which would always end in disappointment that I'd been made a mark and fell for it

so the movie can kiss my dick i guess, i'm sure there are a million other writers who would probably be more deserving of the attention. but w/e, more power to a guy who can make money off shit-nothing.

 

[Venetia]

hi guys im Ban Drown

once upon a time there was this real controversial subject. uh, let's say it has to do with christianity because there's lots of those guys and if they'll put money in a basket being handed around a bunch of wooden seats in a drafty building after some old guy told them they were all evil... i guess they'll give anyone money LOL!!!! so yeah christianity.

a guy dies i guess. he was super important cause he went to a cool college and spent a lot of time around old antiques n' shit. but i dont really feel like talking about him as a man or give him any personal info cause thats boring. but oh!!!! it's a murder. aaah!

whatever dumbfuck country he's in, they're obv. incompetent because it's not america loL! so they call in *~*The Badass Yet Kind of Nerdy Because That Gives Him More Character Somehow Detective*~*. And then bring in the *~*Hot But Not Too Hot (Attainable) Very Independent Not Married And Feisty Female Counterpart*~*.

OMG there's a puzzle!!!!!!!!! none of the pieces make any fucking sense but if the characters hit a whole lot of lucky streaks then it'll come together somehow......... oh and mention that a famous genius/painter did it, those guys are smart, everyone will believe they did it.

Alright uh ... Writer's Block o.o
OH!!!! I JUST SAW A MICHAEL BAY MOVIE----

BOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!! SSSSSPPPRRRSSSHHHH!!!!!!!! EXPLOSION'S............... @_@ :-O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KABOOM!

RUNRUNRUNRUNRUN!!!!!!!! SSSPPRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH OH NO ARMY GUY'S RUN!!!!!!! KA-BOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!! RAT-A-TAT-TAT-TAT!!!!!!!! KA-BRRRRSSSSSMMMMMPPPH CARCHASE YEAH!

oops too much action gotta get back to the smart people shit
*insert lots and lots of cyclical logic and rhetoric here to lead to a solution*

MEANWHILE, IN THE LEGION OF DOOM......... the uh... cardinal pope
he's ANGRY >8|
hes gonna get shit done, boy!!!!!!
but oh god wait, is he behind it?!?!?
or is it these other guys!!!!

MEANWHILE, IN THE OTHER LEGION OF DOOM.......... christians are evil boo!!!!!!!! let's make sure the murderer is real sadistic. those guys never act normal lol! yeah and masochistic . omg s&m lolol im a genius those guys are such fagts

MEANWHILE, BACK WITH THE UNKNOWABLE MAIN CHARACTER AND HIS FEISTY AND INCREASINGLY FLIRTY FEMALE COUNTERPART...

uh

rinse and repeat until the end! make sure to throw in lots of useless descriptors to pad the shit out of it! thicker books means the readers will feel smart :specs:

--oops! CLIFFHANGER!!!!1

....THE END?

time to make billions..............

 

[Chalupa]

Er what, the books about the LHC it's hardly "thrown in"

Anyway.

It's a fantastic book, regardless of all the bandwagoners who've never even read a Dan Brown novel who are all too quick to shit over him. (Not directed at you Mawk since at least you've read the books first). I thought all four books were amazing, Deception Point (about aliens) and Digital Fortress (about computers) especially. I'd prefer if he kept away from religion, mainly because the religious aspect of The DaVinci Code made it immensely popular (and therefore unpopular); but otherwise it was a good read in my opinion.

I don't know about the film itself. If it is anything like the book it will be amazing, though they ruined TDC last time, it just wasn't the same as the book for some reason.

I loved Digital Fortress. I haven't gotten a chance to read Deception Point yet.

 

[Chalupa]

dan brown is quite honestly a terrible author. when I was way shorter than I am now I liked how he worked out his puzzles, but reading through them now, he doesn't so much work things out as he has Robert think in circles while he wanks off to various historical facts, either distorted or made-up, and eventually finds the off-ramp long after any reader above 15 has come to the intended conclusion.

his literary style is decent, yeah, but I can't help but begrudge the guy for how much he tries to seem like a historian or an intellectual when really he's mostly phoning it in. what he doesn't misinterpret, he blatantly makes up. if you like that style of book, you should check out Foccault's Pendulum and The Name of the Rose by whatsisname Eco. unlike dan, he is actually capable as a puzzlewriter -- in fact, Pendulum has even been referred to as "a thinking man's The Da Vinci Code."

honestly I was expecting a little more out of you than drooling praise for a pretentious bad author, but you're 15 years old and you throw the word "otaku" around like it means something better than "japan is the only thing that can ever give me a boner." I shouldn't have made Expectations at all, considering.

What the FUCK is your problem? I make a decent post, and you just decide to bash everything I say? What, got nothing better to do than make fun of a 15 year old for his interests?

I know what an Otaku really is, and I know it's far from a positive term, but at least I have the balls to admit I am an Otaku. Who gives a fuck. Go die, you stupid ignorant dick-hole who has nothing better to do than make fun of a 15 year old for what he likes.

 

[mawk]

ahahaha

 

[Chalupa]

If this is the kind of shit that people have take, why the hell does anyone new stay? When I joined, this place was decent, but people like you fucked it up.

 

[mawk]

dogg I think you should stop ruining your own topic

post in feedback if you wanna go off on this

 

[mawk]

dogg I think you should stop ruining your own topic

post in feedback if you wanna go off on this

 

[Venetia]

chalupa your kind of overreacting.

but miek you were kind of fishing for an argument so just be cool man.

its not hard to be civil guys